Tornado Emergency Oklahoma City

I can't stop laughing at the guy in the passenger seat. I know I'd probably sound like 10 year old kid too as I'm screaming but man, I was laughing at their intense situation.

That guy in the passenger seat reminds me WAY too much of Lt. Gorman from "Aliens". If the driver pulled out a pistol and put a slug in that doosher's head during the tornado, no jury in the world would have convicted him.

I don't cheer for inclement weather, but if that tornado had speared a 2x4 right through "Captain Danger"s rib cage during that wild ride, I might have to work damn hard to stiffle a giggle.
 
"I'm cool! I'm a storm chaser!"

No, Corky. You're an idiot who doesn't know enough to come in out of the rain. And now that your "Tornado Chasing Assault Vehicle" has been UNEXPECTEDLY totalled, you'll have to live in your parents basement for another 6 months at least.

His friends probably have to hold a clipboard over his mouth whenever he's outside during a thunderstorm, to keep him from drowning as he stares open-mouthed up at the stormclouds.
 
I like how they differentiate between "amateur" and "professional" storm chasers.

Amateurs = idiots.

Professionals = people who desperately need career counseling.

And the purported benefits of storm chasing? The only one I can see is providing real-time data to emergency services dispatchers regarding specific damage in the storm's path. And that service can be provided with the same results if the chasers back off a mile or two from the event. When the EMT's & firemen are at least 15 minutes away, there's no real advantage in having an extra 30 seconds of notification of the damage.

It's all about getting "the best footage".
 
Iowa seems to get the tornados and drought/ then floods as well.
Anyways, not sure it's a great thing to say as OKC is flooding from this storm.
KFOR crew runs into flash flooding issues | KFOR.com

5 inches in 20 minutes does not fix the constant drought they are in. A flash flood is totally different from the floods we experience.

I am not a weather man or know the stats but no way does Iowa compare in the number of tornados OK gets every year. Iowa almost made it a year with no tornados just this last year. Plus the amount violent tornados (F3+) OK gets compared to Iowa has to be a huge difference.
 
I like how they differentiate between "amateur" and "professional" storm chasers.

Amateurs = idiots.

Professionals = people who desperately need career counseling.

And the purported benefits of storm chasing? The only one I can see is providing real-time data to emergency services dispatchers regarding specific damage in the storm's path. And that service can be provided with the same results if the chasers back off a mile or two from the event. When the EMT's & firemen are at least 15 minutes away, there's no real advantage in having an extra 30 seconds of notification of the damage.

It's all about getting "the best footage".

They can confirm if there is a tornado, radar can only guess, so you need somebody on the ground to confirm. Also, some of the professionals can gather data to help better understand these storms.
 
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They can confirm if there is a tornado, radar can only guess, so you need somebody on the ground to confirm.

Confirmation is telling dispatchers "I see a tornado". Not "I got too close and now I'm IN a tornado". I still maintain that most of these mouth-breathers get too close in hopes of cashing in on good footage of the event from within "the suck zone".
 
I like how they differentiate between "amateur" and "professional" storm chasers.

Amateurs = idiots.

Professionals = people who desperately need career counseling.

And the purported benefits of storm chasing? The only one I can see is providing real-time data to emergency services dispatchers regarding specific damage in the storm's path. And that service can be provided with the same results if the chasers back off a mile or two from the event. When the EMT's & firemen are at least 15 minutes away, there's no real advantage in having an extra 30 seconds of notification of the damage.

It's all about getting "the best footage".

Well, that's some of what I've been saying.

You don't need to be that close. Your overall point is true. Most were way too close, in search of "sick footage" and not any sort of public service.

Eyes are still needed on the storm. Storm spotters are very valuable. Radar doesn't show what is happening at the ground, or even through the bottom layer of the storm as you get away from the radar.

But still, consider that the NWS does NOT recommend their spotters be "mobile" or chase.

You can "chase" and help spot responsibly, but I believe by definition you are not doing it responsibly and are a hazard if you are not a trained spotter, relaying this information to the NWS and law enforcement.

And "trained spotter" still likely isn't enough to "chase," or at least chase closely. If you aren't a meteorologist, it is easy to get caught by something back building behind you, or quick/sudden turns.

And as seen yesterday, even people who know better and shouldn't have been nearly as surprised by a turn as they were, still nearly got themselves and others killed.
 
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I am not a weather man or know the stats but no way does Iowa compare in the number of tornados OK gets every year. Iowa almost made it a year with no tornados just this last year. Plus the amount violent tornados (F3+) OK gets compared to Iowa has to be a huge difference.

Iowa averages 51 tornadoes per year. Oklahoma averages 62 tornadoes per year. They are pretty similar, Oklahoma sees a few more per year because the state is a little bit bigger. Iowa actually sees 9.1 tornadoes per 10,000 square miles compared to 9.0 for Oklahoma. http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/tornado/clim/avg-ef0-ef5-torn1991-2010.gif

Oklahoma does average slightly higher in the significant tornado category. http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/tornado/clim/avg-ef3-ef5-torn1991-2010.gif

If you made the argument that more Oklahoma tornadoes might actually be stronger than recorded but it can't be proven because they have fewer structures to hit, then I might believe you. But Iowa isn't exactly super-populated either.

Here's the entire webpage: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/severeweather/tornadoes.html
 
If those guys in that linked YouTube video earlier were collecting data for further study, or even on the horn with emergency services to help coordinate responses to the storm? I'll get a freakin' tigerhawk tattoo on my forehead first thing Monday morning. Those idiots were just out there "for kicks".
 
These dorks are lucky to be alive. That part of a tree at 3:16 was coming at them like a bullet, both driver and passenger would have been dead for sure. The passenger seat guy is such a Reed Timmer wannabe


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My God, will somebody tell the passenger seat guy to STFU. Yes, I understand that a tornado is bearing down on them, but could he be anymore annoying?! And tell him to wipe that damn look off his face and stop screaming.
 
If those guys in that linked YouTube video earlier were collecting data for further study, or even on the horn with emergency services to help coordinate responses to the storm? I'll get a freakin' tigerhawk tattoo on my forehead first thing Monday morning. Those idiots were just out there "for kicks".

They were actually known and respected storm-chasers before yesterday's event, but as you saw with Mike Bettes from the Weather Channel, they put themselves in a bad situation with their own choices. It was their choice and they ended up with the consequences. It's like Mt. Everest climbers, many die from choosing to climb the mountain.
 
My God, will somebody tell the passenger seat guy to STFU. Yes, I understand that a tornado is bearing down on them, but could he be anymore annoying?! And tell him to wipe that damn look off his face and stop screaming.
To me all his actions looked very fake/forced. I didn't see real fear or worry in his body language. It was very odd.

Are they in the vehicle that is being shown everywhere as destroyed?
 
Preliminary numbers now 9 dead, 7 in vehicles. (@pmarshwx)

Oh and the "grinder, EF4, EF5, Shawnee-like tornado. You have to be underground to survive" rating?

Still only a preliminary EF-3 as of 1pm.

Why you would rate a tornado, live, without seeing damage...not sure. Left thinking caps at home yesterday it seems.
 
To me all his actions looked very fake/forced. I didn't see real fear or worry in his body language. It was very odd.

Are they in the vehicle that is being shown everywhere as destroyed?

No. That SUV with the flattened roof was driven by guys from the Weather Channel. I'm not sure who Mr. Storm Danger is working for, but it wasn't the same vehicle. Especially since the vehicle in that video wasn't thrown 200 feet like the Weather Channel one was.

Some people go on reality shows like Big Brother or Survivor & act like idiots. Others went on Fear Factor and ate plates full of insects with horse semen sauce as a glaze. These guys couldn't get one of those gigs, so they risked their lives to go out in a storm and collect shaky video footage of a deadly storm.
 
Iowa averages 51 tornadoes per year. Oklahoma averages 62 tornadoes per year. They are pretty similar, Oklahoma sees a few more per year because the state is a little bit bigger. Iowa actually sees 9.1 tornadoes per 10,000 square miles compared to 9.0 for Oklahoma. http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/tornado/clim/avg-ef0-ef5-torn1991-2010.gif

Oklahoma does average slightly higher in the significant tornado category. http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/tornado/clim/avg-ef3-ef5-torn1991-2010.gif

If you made the argument that more Oklahoma tornadoes might actually be stronger than recorded but it can't be proven because they have fewer structures to hit, then I might believe you. But Iowa isn't exactly super-populated either.

Here's the entire webpage: Tornado Climatology

good info. Thanks. Still wouldn't want to live there. I would like your post but can't do that from a phone I guess
 
good info. Thanks. Still wouldn't want to live there. I would like your post but can't do that from a phone I guess

I liked it for ya, bro. Because it was that good.

I think part of the problem with Oklahoma is the lack of basements compared to Iowa. If Iowans were as exposed to tornados and those in the South are, our fatilities would be greater, IMHO.

So what seems to be less of a problem in Iowa is just the fact that we get the property damage with less of the injuries and fatalities. That, and their intensities seem to be greater.
 
My God, will somebody tell the passenger seat guy to STFU. Yes, I understand that a tornado is bearing down on them, but could he be anymore annoying?! And tell him to wipe that damn look off his face and stop screaming.

The tree that smashed into the windshield almost did that for you.
 
Oh and the "grinder, EF4, EF5, Shawnee-like tornado. You have to be underground to survive" rating?

Still only a preliminary EF-3 as of 1pm.

Why you would rate a tornado, live, without seeing damage...not sure. Left thinking caps at home yesterday it seems.

Well, to be fair, the couplet seen on radar associated with this tornado was extreme. I have also seen several discussions that explain there were several mobile radars on this tornado that recorded winds much higher than the preliminary EF3 assessment. The preliminary rating was based on damage indicators that the survey team found (the EF-scale rating system of course). We'll have to wait and see if it gets upgraded. There's a lot of debate about whether or not to include measured wind speeds as evidence to increase the EF rating. And it has been done recently. IMO, if it's measured with scientific instruments, it might as well be rated as such which will only improve tornado data.

But when this tornado was forming, all indications were that it could be a very violent tornado thus the reactions from the media. But I also don't agree with the "must be above ground to survive" statements or that they told people to evacuate and drive out of the way.