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So if I recall, the stadium project was due for completion August 1st...did that date get met with all the crappy rainy weather we've encountered?

Also, didn't the original plans call for Iowa State University to be displayed along the white piping that runs along the middle of the gate? Again I could be wayyy off base but I thought that was something on the original plans that I really liked.

For those of you who haven't followed the stadium progress, here's the web cam:

WebCam - Jack Trice Stadium - Improvements 2006
 
I didn't go out into the Stadium to look at the improvements, but from the balcony of the Jacobsen building on Saturday, it looks like all the concrete work is done. The entrances into the upper decks all have new concrete stairs around them, but the handrails haven't been set in the concrete yet. There's probably still quite a bit of "finish" work to do yet, but it looked like the majority of the heavy lifting is done.
 
No it isn't completed yet. They still have railing, signage, and other odds and ends to take care of. They shouldn't have any trouble getting it done before football starts. There are a number of areas that they chose to cut back in and that may have been one.
 
jaretac said:
No it isn't completed yet. They still have railing, signage, and other odds and ends to take care of. They shouldn't have any trouble getting it done before football starts. There are a number of areas that they chose to cut back in and that may have been one.
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Who chose to cut back and why? Was it schedule issues where the work is just being be deferred? Or was it due to some changes in plan and if so why? Not being critical, but it just begs for an explanation.
 
CYlent Bob said:
The entrances into the upper decks all have new concrete stairs around them, but the handrails haven't been set in the concrete yet. There's probably still quite a bit of "finish" work to do yet, but it looked like the majority of the heavy lifting is done.
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They are the same stairs- just painted with that "non-slick coating". In my opinion they are slicker then the rest of the concrete. I think the suites and club sections are done, they just need to move stuff into them. That is mostly true with the new concession stands, also.
 
Psyclone said:
Who chose to cut back and why? Was it schedule issues where the work is just being be deferred? Or was it due to some changes in plan and if so why? Not being critical, but it just begs for an explanation.
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I think it is just a matter of practicality. If they had followed the architect's plan completely, they would of spent more and got less. The original drawings called for a cardinal and gold brick concourse- it is asphalt. I think it much better that they spent that money on repainting the steal supports then to spend it on brick.
 
I dunno, I was disappointed that they got rid of the brick concourse. That's one of those things that sets your stadium apart from others- every stadium on the planet has asphalt or concrete concourses, and the ones that don't are the ones that people talk about favorably. Yes, the painting needed to be done, but I would consider giving up the brick for the paint "spending less and getting less", jaretac.
 
It'd be nice to see it put in with Phase II, as it would be a really nice addition... but I don't see that happening, as they're still trying to make Phase II happen period :no:
 
jaretac said:
I think it is just a matter of practicality. If they had followed the architect's plan completely, they would of spent more and got less. The original drawings called for a cardinal and gold brick concourse- it is asphalt. I think it much better that they spent that money on repainting the steal supports then to spend it on brick.
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I would have thought for a project of state owned facility, those kind of changes would not be allowed. I would have thought you had your plan and your bid, and it was up to the builder to execute it per that plan and at the agreed-to cost. Any discretionary changes after the fact, I would have thought would be complicated by bureaucratic red tape, so much so that they wouldn't even surface.
 
Brick is so expensive though. Stuff like expanding the concourses and improving the bathrooms and concessions are things that needed done. Brick would have been really nice but it doesn't have any functional difference between the asphalt.
 
jaretac said:
I think it is just a matter of practicality. If they had followed the architect's plan completely, they would of spent more and got less. The original drawings called for a cardinal and gold brick concourse- it is asphalt. I think it much better that they spent that money on repainting the steal supports then to spend it on brick.
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I noticed that the asphalt was laid about 1.5 to 2 inches below the actual concrete in front of the concession stands and entrances to the stands/suites and also the sidewalks coming out from in front of the suites. Now, I'm not saying this is the finish product cause I seriously hope its not otherwise your going to have TONS of people tripping over the lip going from asphalt to concrete. I'd assume they'd come with a decorative topping later? perhaps colored concrete???
 
BryceC said:
Brick is so expensive though. Stuff like expanding the concourses and improving the bathrooms and concessions are things that needed done. Brick would have been really nice but it doesn't have any functional difference between the asphalt.
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I wasn't arguing any of those things. I certainly would never have said, "Hey let's make the concourse 20 feet narrower so that we can put in brick!" The widened concourse and the improved bathrooms and concessions were going to happen anyway; that was the entire point of the construction. But if brick and asphalt are functionally exactly the same, why go with the unattractive option?
 
Cloned4Life said:
Dumb question I guess but, what part of the concourse was brick?
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No part was brick before construction. The renovation plans called for the concourse to be repaved with cardinal and gold brickwork, but they have apparently decided to forgo that. My comment referred to getting rid of it in the plans, not physically tearing up bricks.
 
scottie33 said:
I noticed that the asphalt was laid about 1.5 to 2 inches below the actual concrete in front of the concession stands and entrances to the stands/suites and also the sidewalks coming out from in front of the suites. Now, I'm not saying this is the finish product cause I seriously hope its not otherwise your going to have TONS of people tripping over the lip going from asphalt to concrete. I'd assume they'd come with a decorative topping later? perhaps colored concrete???
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you should only put 3-4 inches of asphalt down at a time, before compressing it (leaving 1.5-2" of depth). So if they needed to fill 4 inches of Asphalt.. it will take two passes.

-keep
 
scottie33 said:
I noticed that the asphalt was laid about 1.5 to 2 inches below the actual concrete in front of the concession stands and entrances to the stands/suites and also the sidewalks coming out from in front of the suites. Now, I'm not saying this is the finish product cause I seriously hope its not otherwise your going to have TONS of people tripping over the lip going from asphalt to concrete. I'd assume they'd come with a decorative topping later? perhaps colored concrete???
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They have laid the top layer of asphalt. It is all level.
 
keepngoal said:
you should only put 3-4 inches of asphalt down at a time, before compressing it (leaving 1.5-2" of depth). So if they needed to fill 4 inches of Asphalt.. it will take two passes.

-keep
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This is true, however, wouldn't you think they'd do one layer say in 2 days...and then come back and do the next layer to finish it off a few days later? I seen them do one layer, however, in 3 weeks, they hadn't put down a new layer.

This could be because they still had some fairly heavy equipment (cement trucks, dump trucks, and aerial lifts) to be present on the asphalt for some more finish work...and it'd make sense to not put the final layer down afraid that the heavy equipment would tear it up.
 
They were probably waiting until the bulk of the construction was done to prevent the surface from getting damaged.
 
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