A good start would be that you have to win your conference to be in the playoff. The conference title would be part of the PLAYOFF. Of course ESPN would be against this because they would rather see a conference loser like Ohio State, Texas, Alabama, etc. in the playoff than a less popular team who actually won their conference.
The CFP is garbage
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Ah. That makes more sense. It will never happen unfortunately, because one of products of the FBS process is making the committee feel special about themselves and providing interesting content for ESPN articles.
TCU in the very first year of the playoffs. They only lost to Baylor (#5) on the road by 3 points. Turned around and destroyed #9 Ole Miss in bowl game 42-3. Ohio State was allowed to sneak in that year and beat everyone.
There's an argument for TCU. But even if there wasn't, any time a #1 or #2 hasn't won it all is an argument to expand to include all five P5 champs. If a #3 or #4 can win the #5 would certainly have a shot.
At this point we'd still have to depend on rankings for the 4 team selection.
Ideally would like them to expand to a 6 team playoff, with byes for the top 2 teams. That allows all P5 champions and one wild card. And it would only add two more games total.
Now determining if this wild card should be a non-P5 school, Notre Dame (in years they deserve in), or a conference runner up, is another question altogether.
I just think it's BS that Georgia could lose to Alabama and still get into the playoff for a potential rematch. Just win your conference. With only 4 spots in the playoff, no one who loses their conference championship game should be able to get in, regardless of how high they are ranked. It devalues the championship game.
I just think it needs to go to 8 team playoff. Then, pretty much anyone valid to be in the discussion, as well as those who will be regardless if they should be, ahem tOSU, and then we would be pretty much set. I do think the champion of each P5 should be in, regardless of record.
Massey composite ratings have the same top 4, but Wisconsin at 5, Penn St. at 6, Miami at 7, etc.
I actually think the computers have it worse than the CFP ranking.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
I think like the NCAA tournament selection committee, these guys are doing a pretty good job. I have absolutely no complaints on their list this year.
The analysts didn't vote.
The analysts are there to fill a time slot and help ESPN make money. Don't get angry for falling for it.
OSU losing did Wisky no favors. They needed to beat a dominating OSU team in the B10 Championship to bolster their resume'.
I have no problem with the loser of a conference championship game getting in as long as there isn't a rule against it. Should there be that rule? Different argument.
The top 2 teams in the country could be in the same conference.
Yes, I literally did...literally.
You obviously have trouble with the linkage (and use a the tired "straw man" excuse) so I'll try to explain it for you.
Tre states...(in response to the example of Washington)
The point is that in the absence of a head to head game *or* the teams trading schedules we can't truly know who is better. For some teams it's obvious, Georgia would blow KU off the field. For others it gets tricky. When you disqualify a team because their conference "stinks" you replace them with a team whose conference presumably doesn't stink. You've now weighted conferences yet Alabama doesn't play a Pac schedule and Washington could very well be undefeated with Alabama's schedule. The B1G West kind of stinks but if Wisconsin becomes the B1G Champion they absolutely should have a chance to play in a playoff because through no fault of their own they didn't play ND's or Clemson's schedule.
We'll never know if TCU could've won it all in 2014 but we do know that neither the #1 or #2 won it. And we also know that TCU had a legit case to be that 4th team who won it all.
A CFP that selects four teams while there are five P5 conferences is a failure. It fails to eliminate the uncertainty that it was designed to solve.
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