That game was fixed

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Also, the Lazard "pick play." There was a defender in front of him! He had nowhere else he could go! Another db crashes into him from the side and LAZARD gets called for offensive PI. UNBELIEVABLE.
 

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I don't think the game was fixed, but just more of the same incompetent officiating that we have to deal with every year. I'd rather have robots than these dumbasses. I think a few of the refs on this crew had mailed it in for the year.
The back judge on that PI call looked like he didn't know what he was doing.
 
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He ain't wrong. They learned another valuable lesson in today's world.
 

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It seems like the head official basically told the guy that threw the flag to pick it back up. Does he have the authority to do that?
 
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I noticed another odd play was that taunting call on Hakeem. KCCI replay showed a longer clip and it didn't look like the ref right by him was the one that threw a flag. Very interesting.
 
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I don't do the twitter, but earlier I checked out Bob Bowlsby's twit page and it was full of ISU fans blasting him. I just went back to it to see how much more he's gotten but now it just says he hasn't tweeted and if he does it'll show up there. Does this mean he shut it down?
 

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I have never, ever, seen a sliding QB take a cheap shot and not get the call. Never. And it was clearly a late hit and helmet to helmet. There was a lot of completely BS calls in that game, but that one took the prize, unless it was the no hands holding call on Garcia.
 
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It seems like the head official basically told the guy that threw the flag to pick it back up. Does he have the authority to do that?

Reggie Smith (the referee) asked the back judge "what do you want to do?" And the back judge said "pick it up." It's clear as day when looking at it on DVR. Problem is I can't tell what they were saying before that last bit.
 

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It's being said the flags like the PI on Lazard and late hit on Kempt were judgment calls. OK, fine, whatever.

Even if the judgment calls are taken out, getting things wrong like a fair catch and run (against TCU) or a clear false start on what ended up being a Kansas State touchdown run, is beyond inexcusable.

How the Big 12 can continue to allow failing officiating to occur is beyond me. It's not like officiating an Iowa State game is what making them incompetent. Reggie Smith's crew was one the who called the TCU-Oklahoma game earlier this season.
 

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It seems like the head official basically told the guy that threw the flag to pick it back up. Does he have the authority to do that?
No. At least not really. When official A throws a flag and they conference, official B has to provide information to "convince" official A to pick up his flag. Sometimes it's as simple as an official throwing a flag for PI down the field didn't see the pass get tipped at the LOS that the umpire or referee would've seen it all it takes to say why a flag needs to be picked up. Today's game, I have no idea what could've possibly been convincing enough to pick up a flag.

But another official cannot flat out say the flag has to be picked up. The one who throws it is the one who has to say the flag needs to be picked up.
 
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No. At least not really. When official A throws a flag and they conference, official B has to provide information to "convince" official A to pick up his flag. Sometimes it's as simple as an official throwing a flag for PI down the field didn't see the pass get tipped at the LOS that the umpire or referee would've seen it all it takes to say why a flag needs to be picked up. Today's game, I have no idea what could've possibly been convincing enough to pick up a flag.

But another official cannot flat out say the flag has to be picked up. The one who throws it is the one who has to say the flag needs to be picked up.

Maybe we need a rule change where instead of 'convincing' officials to second guess their own calls, if they are considering pulling a flag they should kick it up to the booth and the penalty becomes reviewable.
 

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If I was Campbell, I would get out of here. Why even try when the games are blatantly fixed?
Some of you were quick to condemn this poster, but I don't think he's all that wrong. After today, CMC has to be adding officiating to his list of items that make it extremely difficult to win here.

I have been viewing these forums for a few seasons, and posting for just a fraction of one, but there is one thing i cam say for certain. No fanbase in America understands the rule book or officiating less than ours. That last PI non call was 100% correct. Have I seen that incorrectly ruled PI in the past? Yes. Did the officials get it right here? Yes. The defender had excellent position and clearly turned his head and made a play on the football.
Complete ********. The only reason the DB turned his head was because he was about to motorboat Lazard's tits. He had both hands wrapped around AL and made no play on the ball. Pathetic.
 

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It's being said the flags like the PI on Lazard and late hit on Kempt were judgment calls. OK, fine, whatever.

Even if the judgment calls are taken out, getting things wrong like a fair catch and run (against TCU) or a clear false start on what ended up being a Kansas State touchdown run, is beyond inexcusable.

How the Big 12 can continue to allow failing officiating to occur is beyond me. It's not like officiating an Iowa State game is what making them incompetent. Reggie Smith's crew was one the who called the TCU-Oklahoma game earlier this season.


It’s a judgement call to throw flag. Not pick it up.

Anyone defending those refs is a poor excuse for a Iowa State fan/former player.
 

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Always thought once you paid your dues, and attained All-League status, at the very least, these BS calls don’t go against you. Not in the Big12. Both the “pick” offensive PI and reversed call on the mugging on our last drive are indefensible.