Steve Prohm
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We had every bit as much talent as those teams. Again the major factor that set us 5 games apart in the Big 12 was coaching.
I think this is part of it. It was a successful year by a broad general history but it was an unsuccessful year when the context of that team is added. Plenty will probably disagree with this but the last year that I genuinely enjoyed watching was the 13-14 year. We’ve had a bunch of success since then but since that team we’ve always had some sort of issues. We had the UAB year. We had Georges senior year where it should have been the best year ever and never fully materialized yo those levels. We had Monte’s senior year which was probably the closest we’ve come since then. Then you had the awful year in 17-18. Last year was what it was and now we have this year.
I’d rather be a less talented team that can overachieve than and extremely talented team that underachieves. It just isn’t fun to watch. I’ll still chear for them but I will be less emotionally involved.
2 5th year seniors, a 4th year jr, 2 top 50 recruits, one that avg 18 a night as a true frosh, Tyrese Haliburton, Cam Lard 3rd year soph (avg 12/8 as a frosh)....no argument that this team wasn't as talented as those teams. Never said we were unquestionably the best just, not a leap to say we were as if/not more talented. Those teams finished ahead of us because they were better coached.
Even in the big 12 tourney run that's supposed to make us forget the rest of the season was a bummer, we only played against 3 of those guys you listed. Two of those wins came against teams without their best player. More evidence that Prohm is fine, as long as he's got talent that is head and shoulders above everyone else.
Look no further than the 2019 class. Two players realized they weren't cut out for the Big 12 before stepping foot on the court. Massive misses. And the jury is still out on the other two but they hopefully at least have some upside.
Cool post, turd.
Because I called you out for posting something completely false?
Here is the thing, Iowa State, particularly their athletic department doesn't owe you or anyone else anything.
Be mad, want Prohm fired, don't go to the games. It won't change anything.
I don't live in Iowa and really could care less about the hawk game or anything hawk related. The FAMU loss was brutal, but I don't get embarrassed about how some kids played a game. I get embarrassed about how our fans have handled it.
What is your excuse for this team...?
Morris -- NBA
Mitrou-Long -- NBA
Hogue -- good overseas player
Niang -- NBA
McKay -- good overseas player
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Thomas -- NBA
Dejean-Jones -- NBA
Nader -- NBA
+ Custer, who never played, but did lead a team to the Final Four a few years later
...not winning the conference regular season and tapping out in the first round?
They got upset in the first round of the tourney, but had a better overall season and had way fewer head scratching losses. Finished 2nd in the conference instead of 5th. Had Prohm gone 12-6 last year it would have looked much better.
Um I'm pretty sure that team went undefeated and never lost a game.....At least that is what some lead me to believe. Greatest team ever assembled, better than the fab 5 and the 1990 UNLV running rebels.
I think we can agree that both Fred and Prohm have probably underachieved relative to the talent they've had at their disposal. Criticizing Prohm is not necessarily an endorsement of Fred.
I think the biggest problem is not making a deep run at some point like our counter parts in Kansas State and Baylor. With the talent that we have had we should have made a run last year. At least sweet 16. That would have cured a lot of the people on here. Losing to an average Ohio State team in the first round never should have happened.
Here is a list of coaches that have a worse win percentage than Steve Prohm since I've been alive:
Glen Anderson
Maury John
Ken Tricky
Lynn Nance
Johnny Orr - yes he turned around what Nance left him, but his last year here was a clunker
Wayne Morgan
Greg McDermott
So for all of you wanting Prohm's head, remember where we were. This narrative is getting old. Good head coaches aren't falling out of sky right now. Be careful of what you wish for.
if Fred recommended him, he's good enough for me. It's hard following our most successful coach in terms of winning percentage.
Glen Anderson
Maury John
Ken Tricky
Lynn Nance
Johnny Orr - yes he turned around what Nance left him, but his last year here was a clunker
Wayne Morgan
Greg McDermott
So for all of you wanting Prohm's head, remember where we were. This narrative is getting old. Good head coaches aren't falling out of sky right now. Be careful of what you wish for.
if Fred recommended him, he's good enough for me. It's hard following our most successful coach in terms of winning percentage.
It’s the automatic go-to argument for a few people. As if the fanbase would have just accepted a loss by CFH to Florida A&M without a similar meltdown.
That's a long list of terrible coaches. Orr wasn't bad, but I think he was a bit overrated by a lot on here as well. Just wait and see what happens to Prohms record after he goes 11-20 this year.
Dude, that team has nothing to do with Prohm but they went 12-6 in the league and won the big 12 tourney, in a much tougher big 12.They had 10 league games vs top 25 teams that season vs 5 for last years team. No comparison to that season and last year.
I am guessing they will not make the tournament but will upset a couple teams this year and that will be enough for the rubes to say look we beat X so the future is bright. Meanwhile they lose Haliburton and don’t have any immediate good players coming in. So another down year next year.
Every coach in the county misses on kids. Everyone knew going in the staff was taking chance on those players sad thing is it didn't work out. As for the other two who, knows, not every player hit the court ready to go.
Prohm cannot win when it comes to some fans. He gets talented players in and then gets blasted when they leave to get paid. When he brings in players that are going to be 4 year players he gets blasted because they are not ready from day one.
