Agree. I don't think the show has been very good overall, but this episode was a step in the right direction. Great fight scenes. The big mystery - what the hell did Sol do!?
Star Wars Expanded Universe Thread
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Well, for those of you that stuck it out to the end, your " I survived The Acolyte" certificate is in the mail.
That ending was....not what I expected, at all, but I thought it was still a pretty good Star Wars show. Not as good as Andor (but what is?) or the first couple of seasons of The Mandalorian, but it was right on the same level as Ahsoka and a step above TBOBF and Kenobi. Of course, this is all subjective.
Show and finale were the same to me. Very up and down with questionable writing and acting at times. There was a certain character reveal last night that did make me really happy
Qimir and Jecki were the best parts of the show to me. I *really* didn't care for either of the cameos. I'm sick of wheels tying things together. Just let a story stand alone.
I definitely didn’t think the final cameo was necessary. But loved the other one
Honestly I really enjoyed the show overall. That said, the entire conceit was not executed well if you ask me, and it almost entirely centers around Brendok and the Osha/Mae characters. That entire storyline could have been either cut or condensed to 10 minutes.
This just goes to my ongoing thing with Disney+. They don't know how to make TV. This should have been a movie. Coven of witches on remote planet is discovered by Jedi, an accident happens which causes them all to be killed except one child (why did there need to be twins?) that character washes out of the Jedi Academy, they are contacted by a Sith, and away we go. We didn't need 50% of this show. And once you're down under 50% of this show, you're probably under 2 hours and you have a movie.
The Disney+ experiment has deeply damaged the brands of both Marvel and Star Wars and IMO has been a huge mistake.
This just goes to my ongoing thing with Disney+. They don't know how to make TV. This should have been a movie. Coven of witches on remote planet is discovered by Jedi, an accident happens which causes them all to be killed except one child (why did there need to be twins?) that character washes out of the Jedi Academy, they are contacted by a Sith, and away we go. We didn't need 50% of this show. And once you're down under 50% of this show, you're probably under 2 hours and you have a movie.
The Disney+ experiment has deeply damaged the brands of both Marvel and Star Wars and IMO has been a huge mistake.
Enjoyed the season overall but like others have said, found it inconsistent in pace and focus. A lot of the reveals outside of
were telegraphed or just too drawn out. Might have made a fantastic movie for streaming but Disney+ is allergic to anything that doesn't incentivize holding a subscription across fiscal quarters.
Assuming they do a second season, we really need some of the main characters to have more depth. I thought Venestra was really wooden and Mae's flipflopping motivations are more convenient for the plot then sensical. Osha came a long way as an interesting character in the finale (finally). I kinda wish they'd just do some Witch Voodoo and turn Mae and Osha into one person. The twins-but-not-twins thing is very meh as far as lore and world building.
the Plaguies cameo
Assuming they do a second season, we really need some of the main characters to have more depth. I thought Venestra was really wooden and Mae's flipflopping motivations are more convenient for the plot then sensical. Osha came a long way as an interesting character in the finale (finally). I kinda wish they'd just do some Witch Voodoo and turn Mae and Osha into one person. The twins-but-not-twins thing is very meh as far as lore and world building.
Mae had literally nothing to do the whole season. She was basically the setup person for OSHA the whole time.
D+ has been hit and miss with both brands. The Mandalorian, Andor, Clone Wars, Bad Batch have been excellent, just like Loki, Wandavision, Hawkeye, Moon Knight, and X-Men 97 for Marvel.
You think Moon Knight, Hawkeye, and the Bad Batch were successful?
I liked Moon Knight right up until the finale.
Edit: And pretty much the same with Hawkeye. It seems they have difficulty with endings with several shows. I'm sure it isn't easy tying a bow on some of theses stories when they are part of a larger narrative. The Bad Batch I thought was a fine show with a reasonably satisfying conclusion.
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I'd love to have a discussion about the ending of Shogun with people.
Even myself I went from kind of outraged, to thinking about it, to kind of liking it.
I've yet to watch the Acolyte but the way Star Wars and Star Trek "fan" reviews are these days there's absolutely no way to know if something is great or horrible without watching it yourself.
Yes and all three are the opposite of "damaging" as your earlier post stated. For Star Wars Disney+, I consider The Acolyte, Obi-Wan, and Book of Boba Fett to be in the damaging tier, however they weren't dogsh!t like Disney's sequel series and The Resistance cartoon.
For Marvel, I'd put She Hulk and Secret Invasion in the damaging tier. Iffy on Echo and Guardians X-Mas on that tier as well.
All of the other shows were fine for their brands.
Yeah I'm in the boat that Marvel is pretty bad across D+ series, I kind of liked Hawkeye or at least didn't regret watching it. That's it.
X-Men 97 isn't even MCU/D+ to me. It's like someone finally listened to my 20 years of shouting that the Fox Kids X-Men is the best Marvel comics ever put on screen. So glad it happened but it's kind of a hard right turn from everything else rather than part of it.
Star Wars I'm at 50/50 which to be honest shocks me because I'm not even 50/50 on the theatrical releases post original trilogy.
It's these short seasons they keep trying to do with so many shows. They need to get back to shows having like 15-16 episodes instead of being in this awful middle ground between a movie and a proper TV show
My main issue isn't the number of episodes, it's when the episodes are 30-40 minutes long each and not near sixty minutes. The episodes would feel less rushed if they gave each of them more time. Most sci-fi and dramas go 45-60 minutes long each episode.
The season and episode lengths should be as long or as short as it needs to tell the story properly, but unfortunately they aren't working with unlimited budgets. There were editing choices that clearly did The Acolyte no favors, but this has felt like the weakest writing to date on any of these shows.
I consider the animated stuff differently if I’m being honest, there is a barrier to entry there for a lot of people that you’re just not going to overcome.
I think you’re underestimating this. None of my real life friends are watching anymore, period. I’d say, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, and Echo all hurt the brand. I’ve also been pretty invested in the MCU and I’ve not watched anything since Ms. Marvel. Most of my friends were out after Falcon.
Star Wars? Mando was huge, I loved it, but the wind is out of the sails there after Season 3. Boba, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and the Acolyte have all hurt the brand I don’t think it’s debatable. I don’t think any of those shows were successful. Andor was great but basically nobody watched it.
Even if you think they didn’t actively hurt the brands, there is just ZERO juice around these properties. There seems to be almost zero interest in creating another MCU movie or SW Movie.
