Star Wars Expanded Universe Thread

[ISUChippewa]

Yes, but I'm not rooting for the bad guy. Bad people with power standing up to ****** people doesn't make them a hero. It just makes them more comfortable exercising that power against others.

Maybe it's just me, but in a weird way I find myself really pulling for those two crazy kids in love...

 

[houjix]

Maybe it's just me, but in a weird way I find myself really pulling for those two crazy kids in love...

I hope they get married and honeymoon on the Death Star in about 4 years.

 

[Frak]

I didn't say it made her a good person or forgives the bad things she has done, but I'm sorry, what they are doing with them is the very definition of humanizing them and making them relateable in the story.

Yeah, there’s a line of thought that the empire is the government and the rebels are actually terrorists. The empire is doing what it needs to do to maintain law and order. If they’re have to step on some people to do it, they have no problem with that, but for the most part they are not out there torturing people for fun. In their minds it’s justified to do some of those things for the “greater good”. Now, maybe they don’t realize that there is a Sith Lord running the show and he actually IS evil, but I like that there’s some grey area where people just see things differently. Different point of view as Ben said.

 

[bos]

Yeah, there’s a line of thought that the empire is the government and the rebels are actually terrorists. The empire is doing what it needs to do to maintain law and order. If they’re have to step on some people to do it, they have no problem with that, but for the most part they are not out there torturing people for fun. In their minds it’s justified to do some of those things for the “greater good”. Now, maybe they don’t realize that there is a Sith Lord running the show and he actually IS evil, but I like that there’s some grey area where people just see things differently. Different point of view as Ben said.

Pretty fair way to put it. Honestly didnt ever really think of it that deeply but it makes sense. Everyones motivations are different.

 

[NorthCyd]

Yeah, there’s a line of thought that the empire is the government and the rebels are actually terrorists. The empire is doing what it needs to do to maintain law and order. If they’re have to step on some people to do it, they have no problem with that, but for the most part they are not out there torturing people for fun. In their minds it’s justified to do some of those things for the “greater good”. Now, maybe they don’t realize that there is a Sith Lord running the show and he actually IS evil, but I like that there’s some grey area where people just see things differently. Different point of view as Ben said.

It's most definitely a story of radicalization. Push someone far enough and they will resort to violence in protest. I think in the macro the Empire is evil and the Rebellion is good, but in the micro those lines get blurred, which is a consistent theme through both Rogue One and Andor. In episode 6 from season one when the rebels first draw their weapons on the imperials there is a mother and her child in the room. The rebels point their weapons at them and an imperial officer draws his weapon and his only demand is to let the child go. In that moment, without context, the rebels seems like the bad guys. In Luthens monologue he says lines like "I am forced to use the tools of my enemies to defeat them" and "I burn my decency for someone else's future". They make decisions like allowing Kreegyrs men to die to protect assets. It's not a morally clear picture, but that's part of what makes it a better and a more true to life story. The world is rarely black and white, even if we want it to be that way.