Never mind. I think I understand what you were saying now. ISU WBB loses money, so can we afford to lose the same amount of money when we aren't getting as much revenue elsewhere? That is a real concern.
Recruiting: Taylor Greenfield down to 2
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Never mind. I think I understand what you were saying now. ISU WBB loses money, so can we afford to lose the same amount of money when we aren't getting as much revenue elsewhere? That is a real concern.
Hawaii is a mid major and they made the final four in volleyball. It's all about scheduling, the WAC is terrible in volleyball, yet they are good and made it to the final four.
Does everybody think people are going to just quit showing up to support our women's teams. I've had season tickets for womens bball for 13 years, I'm not going to give them up just because we may not be in the B12 anymore. I will always support the Cyclones no matter what conference they play in.
I will support them, I just don't think CJL will stay around if that happens. She plays in the Big 12 so she can play Texas, NU, OU, KState, Baylor....Losing Nebby from the conference is going to hurt her personally very much I believe.
I just think this whole let's break up the big 12 is stupid. They want to get rid of the unwanted four, which includes us because of our football program. One sport out of how many? Really? Plus, we are rebuilding our football program. Do they remember that we just got a new coach. As we speak, we are rebuilding the two sports that did not do so good. Football and Basketball. Whatever happens, it happens. Though I do not think it will affect the wbb program a lot. So what if our conference competition gets worst. BF will just make our non conference part of the year harder. He won't leave Iowa State. He loves this town. No worries there. Also, IF, the big 12 breaks up it won't take affect until the 2012-2013 season, three years from now... As for Greenfield, if she loves this college as much as we do, she'll come. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Hey, she said her favorite game was the ISU-MSU game in the 2009 Sweet Sixteen. That ought to count for something! Its ashamed that this conference crap has to hijack every thread. I understand why, but its still ashamed.:sad:
Who says she still wouldn't play NU, and it sounds like we could still be playing Baylor and KState (a program in the tank) if we end up with them in a new conference. I could care less about playing Texas, they were the biggest bunch of crybabies I've ever seen. I don't know where CJL goes unless there is an opening, and the one she would most likely want in NU, and he's not going anywhere.
Now, getting back to bball - the Mountain West had the 7th best RPI for 09/10. They had four teams in the top 100. If you add Kansas, Iowa State, and Baylor, the RPI goes way up. Baylor was 15, ISU 28 and KU 43. The Mt. West is a competetive league. TCU, Utah, New Mexico, BYU and San Diego State are all good teams. SDSU made the Sweet 16 and had a first round WNBA draft pick. New Mexico was 9th in the nation in attendance, Utah beat us in 2005 in the NCAA tourney, TCU was in the dance and beat A&M this year, and BYU beat us in 2002 in the dance. This would be a competitive league adding the five remaining B12 schools, and we could play the conference tourney in Denver - that would be a fun place to hang out for the conference tourney.
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From ESPN HoopGurlz:
No. 23 Taylor Greenfield updates on recruiting at USA U17 trials
Taylor Greenfield, the 6-foot-3 wing from Huxley, Iowa, has some things cooking in her recruitment. While competing at the USA Basketball U17 World Championships Team trials she told ESPN HoopGurlz she has made progress with several schools.
Iowa State and Stanford have been among her leaders for some time. She has completed her application and submitted it to Stanford. Year-end transcripts were just sent and she is awaiting word from admissions to see if the scholarship offer from Stanford can be considered in her decision.
Greenfield is also considering UCLA. Duke was in the picture early but, with the Blue Devils need for a post player with at least one of their final two scholarships in 2011, has not been as active in recruiting her lately. She would also like to visit Connecticut but they haven't offered a scholarship at this point. The newcomer to her top five is Texas.
No. 23 Taylor Greenfield updates on recruiting at USA U17 trials
Taylor Greenfield, the 6-foot-3 wing from Huxley, Iowa, has some things cooking in her recruitment. While competing at the USA Basketball U17 World Championships Team trials she told ESPN HoopGurlz she has made progress with several schools.
Iowa State and Stanford have been among her leaders for some time. She has completed her application and submitted it to Stanford. Year-end transcripts were just sent and she is awaiting word from admissions to see if the scholarship offer from Stanford can be considered in her decision.
Greenfield is also considering UCLA. Duke was in the picture early but, with the Blue Devils need for a post player with at least one of their final two scholarships in 2011, has not been as active in recruiting her lately. She would also like to visit Connecticut but they haven't offered a scholarship at this point. The newcomer to her top five is Texas.
This is what is known as stringing a recruit along. Stanford has told her that they cannot accept a commitment from her until her transcripts are approved? This is their way of saying, "Let us fumble with the paperwork until we know what the rest of the recruiting class does."
Agree! You would make Iowa State Women's Basketball fans the happiest! Please come play for us... :notworthy:
I highly doubt this is what is happening. As you all know, Taylor Greenfield is not the average girls basketball player. At 6'3 with the ability to play on the perimeter she is a top 25 recruit nationally. If accepted, she'll be offered. She has been recruited by Stanford for some time now and she did visit Stanford back in November.
The Stanford application process is quite complicated. They normally don't get their first commitment until September of the recruit's SENIOR year. The coaching staff in Palo Alto will target a wide range of recruits, then once there is mutual interest Stanford will ask for the recruit's transcript with all their GPA's from the various semesters as well as if the recruit has been taking an AP honor classes, among others. Then if the admission staff okay's the transcript, the coaches can send these recruits an application to apply to the school. The applications consist of letter's of recommendations from teachers, transcript of all your grade's from both your sophomore and junior years of high school, your SAT and/or ACT test scores in detail, as well as the numerous essays the application consists of. Then once the application is mailed back to the university, the admission staff reviews and discusses it and then the final decision is made, whether or not the recruit is accepted, then the coaches are told of the verdict and the recruit's are notified. If the recruit is accepted, they then can be offered a full-ride guaranteed scholarship.
As you can see this is a very complex process. This is why there are very few kids who apply to Stanford and go through this whole process, get accepted, get offered ... and then decide to go elsewhere. Some that come to mind include Notre Dame's Skylar Diggins. She went through the application process, was accepted, offered, and even came all the way out west and officially visited in October of her senior year. She then chose the home town Fighting Irish over Stanford. Sue Bird was another recruit who applied and was accepted, she then chose UConn over Stanford and Vanderbilt. Christina Wirth chose Vanderbilt over Stanford, despite being accepted by the school. So there are some who do turn the Cardinal down but 85% of the time, when the recruit applies and is accepted, they end up on the Farm. Shoni Schimmel, the No. 8 recruit in the 2010 class flat out said Stanford is her dream school though she didn't have the grades, so don't think that any athlete who expresses interest gets in.
The Cardinal have 6 available scholarship to give in this class. They already have two recruits who have committed for the 2010 class:
No. 18 Bonnie Samuelson, 6'3 Small Forward (Huntington Beach, Calif.)
No. 35 Amber Orrange, 5'7 Point Guard (Houston, Texas)
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I agree that players should want to play the best players in the league to make sure they develop their skills to the best of the ability and a solid portion of that decision is based on what conference you commit to. It really sucks the B12 is completely dissolving before our eyes and I hope Taylor sees that no matter what conference Iowa State is in, we have and will continue to play some of the best teams in the nation whether it be in our conference or non-conference play. I think Iowa State has the edge, though, in that she's played with Amanda Zimmerman, a current cyclone on the WBB team, in high school. The connection they have is the same that Z had with Aus when she was being recruited and I'm confident that her and Fennelly can get the job done on making her an (almost) hometown star like Nicky Wieben was during her time here.
Looking forward to how this all pans out!
Looking forward to how this all pans out!
Me too. I think she could be a star like Aus someday, and to do that is such a great honor. She will be famous in the state of Iowa, just like Aus!!! Hopes she realizes this. There are nothing like us Iowa State fans!!!!!
Samuelson (committed in April) and Orrange (committed last week) are both members of the 2011 class.
Of this year's freshman class at Stanford: Toni Kokenis committed in July of 2009 and Sara James committed in June of 2009.
Sarah Boothe committed in August of 2007. Lindy La Rocque committed in June of the same year.
Stanford didn't exactly wait until September of their senior years for any of their commitments, did they?
I understand that Stanford's application process may be arduous, but let us not act as if they have not made the wheel turn a bit faster when it has suited them.
Fennelly's tweet:
ISUCoachFen
Sat at Hilton for a few minutes-thought about many wins over Nebraska-Colorado-Texas-A&M-OU-OSU Not about the conference it is about the program 36 minutes ago via UberTwitter
Sure hope Taylor Greenfield thinks the same way.
ISUCoachFen
Sat at Hilton for a few minutes-thought about many wins over Nebraska-Colorado-Texas-A&M-OU-OSU Not about the conference it is about the program 36 minutes ago via UberTwitter
Sure hope Taylor Greenfield thinks the same way.
This one makes my guts twist. To have this happen to the 'big 12'. It is heartbreaking. It was known as the hardest conference. These programs left for money, and didn't care about the rest of us. Those selfish schools. I sure do hope she will think that way. At least we know BF will stay with us until it is time for him to retire. He is one loyal coach! Gotta love him!!!
Yes, it was known as the hardest conference, but the conference only won one national championship, and only three teams ever made it to the final four - OU, TX and Baylor.
As for CU - they have been a joke for the past five years, no loss, OSU is a bunch of thugs, coached by a thug and will go into the toilet this year. NU had their one year miracle season and its back to average at best for them. I personally won't miss Gail G. crying on the sidelines because she didn't get a call. I will miss A&M because I really like Gary Blair, and OU was always very competitive.
If the Big East comes to fruition, it will be a stronger bball conference than the Pac 16. You would be in the same conference as Notre Dame (national champ) UCONN, Louisville (nat. champ runner-up) Rutgers (national champ runner-up). Much better conference.
As for CU - they have been a joke for the past five years, no loss, OSU is a bunch of thugs, coached by a thug and will go into the toilet this year. NU had their one year miracle season and its back to average at best for them. I personally won't miss Gail G. crying on the sidelines because she didn't get a call. I will miss A&M because I really like Gary Blair, and OU was always very competitive.
If the Big East comes to fruition, it will be a stronger bball conference than the Pac 16. You would be in the same conference as Notre Dame (national champ) UCONN, Louisville (nat. champ runner-up) Rutgers (national champ runner-up). Much better conference.
