Utah is a bunch of ungrateful wankers, but KU has always seemed like the “sneakily doesn’t want to be here” school. Especially now with Booth throwing around so much money.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Every school would take the Big 10 invite, KU is just the school that hasn't fully accepted the reality that it ain't coming.
I don't know that the others have any greater or lesser desire to be here, they've just come to terms with being passed over by the Big 10 and SEC 3-4 times in the last 15 years while KU still thinks "maybe this time".
The Booth money is what concerns me. Utah seems like an odd add when they passed on Cal and Stanford and really hadn't planned on taking UO and UW. Regardless, they could had either of these teams already. Agree that ACC has to be the target, especially if they want to back ND into a corner.
Cody Campbell and Yormark are in alignment on media rights pooling and the benefits of doing so it's not fictional or hypothetical. Yormark doesn't allow Campbell full access to B12 Media Days to address pooling if that was the case. And if you find a credible source not affiliated with Fox/B10 and ESPN/SEC that states that pooling would not double existing media revenue streams, let me know. Good luck with that effort.
And don't insult the board with your futile math gymnastics. Annual payouts double with pooling and bidding them out NFL-style to at least 4 media partners in strategic OTA and streaming packages. And the Ohio States/B10/SEC continue to benefit with unequal revenue sharing based on TV ratings.
This is why I'm unconcerned about anyone in the Big 12.
Why did you wait until 2030? What's going to change between now and then? KU having a nicer football stadium than they use to doesn't change the reality that they aren't a historic football brand, and have limited upside being in a small population state that they split with another school.
Is there anything Utah's going to do that they haven't already done?
If the Big 10 adds those schools, it's because the Big 10 and SEC are going to like 30 teams each and we end up somewhere too.
Wasn't it the tandem of KU and ISU that were not long ago briefly rumored to be headed for a new league?
We’d take an offer to the B1G in a heartbeat. It’s never coming.
It’s not my plan, it’s what is commonly viewed as the plan of the ACC if they lose 6 schools, and primarily being pushed by Stanford and ND
That’s more hope, than logic. Similar to when people thought Oregon and UW were passed on by BIG because they weren’t added in 2022 with USC, or before the BIG signed their deal
Arguably more has changed by 2030 than in that example
Revenue sharing and more subscription/DTC. Do the networks want to risk decay of the their most lucrative basketball brands while those brands feed M2 football?
2030 would be two years away from all postseason TV deals being up. It’s a break point, for change if not more. The NCAAT revenue disruption will be changing, particularly if networks want basketball blue bloods in P2
CFP expansion and revenue increases- removing another conference (ACC) and further marginalizing Big 12 means more for P2
Probably most importantly, the Overton Window has changed
You can't be serious.
The Big 10 has expanded 4 times since 2009. Kansas has been interested and available every time. They have declined to add Kansas every single time.
After the Big 10 took Maryland from the ACC, the remaining schools added a lengthy GOR. All Big 10 expansion since then has been from leagues whose GORs were expiring soon. They are very clearly waiting for ACC properties.
If 20 with KU and Utah was their end game, it would exist right now. That's not hope. That's just blatant obviousness.
Yeah right.
Any ACC backfill plan that poaches select B12 schools, includes USF, and doesn't include the likes of ISU/KSU is total BS and the fabrication of those with an element of USF affiliation.
It's really obvious scanning back through this thread that FinalFour is trying to push a doom narrative and is probably an Iowa (?) fan. Seems to be the gist of every post they make.
Agreed. If they are going to 20, the ACC is the way and I assume Maryland and Rutgers want some regional opponents and former rivals. There are four teams on the west coast, unless their goal to a bridge to them, but does KU and UU really supply that?
The timing is interesting. This and the Farmadeggon topic both being mentioned the same time the B12 is in the spot light in 0 Week. Good time to sow dissension....takes tin foil hat off.
They might not even know their endgame though. No one has any idea what the situation - hell, what planet earth - will look like in 2030. We can all hope for whatever the hell we want, but this landscape changes faster than logic. We should absolutely be worried about schools like Kansas getting a future offer. Them having not gotten that offer yet is completely meaningless.
Well this basically proves that the Maryland AD is just out of the loop, the big ten is not adding Kansas and Utah. Never was, and makes zero logical sense now.
This is like years ago when everyone was saying Kansas to the big ten, it’s just not happening as there isn’t any value
A) Us being worried is dumb as hell. We can't change it.
B) Yeah, I might die crossing the street tomorrow too. Given the information we have, it is really unlikely that the Big 10 would add either of those schools if they're going to 20. If they're going to 30? That's a whole different story. If those leagues get that big, we're probably in one of them too.
For 16 years now, we've been told that ISU is getting relegated and it hasn't happened yet. I just can't muster up the energy to be that worried about realignment going forward.
It seems to me that the most likely scenario is that the Big 10 and SEC raid the ACC/Notre Dame, and then the Big 12 and ACC leftovers merge. That league will be allowed to participate in the playoff, but will be existentially disadvantaged due to the smaller TV contract, and fewer guaranteed spots in said playoff.
Which is sort of the position Iowa State has always been in. The window dressing will be a little different, but I don't see our overall position really changing that much good or bad.
It seems to me that the most likely scenario is that the Big 10 and SEC raid the ACC/Notre Dame, and then the Big 12 and ACC leftovers merge. That league will be allowed to participate in the playoff, but will be existentially disadvantaged due to the smaller TV contract, and fewer guaranteed spots in said playoff.
Which is sort of the position Iowa State has always been in. The window dressing will be a little different, but I don't see our overall position really changing that much good or bad.
I know a B1G invite isn’t realistic, but having the chance to play teams like Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Nebraska every year would be a dream for our fans—especially with those 3–4 hour drivable road trips. Add in Mizzou, along with the annual matchups against Kansas and K-State, and that would be the perfect setup.
Man you guys would be printing 10 win seasons with that lineup, could just call it the Midwest conference too
