Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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You realize the ESPN playoff deal you keep ranting about expires in 2026 when many other networks are expected to enter into a bidding war. Doesn’t make much sense to put it out for a short deal epically when everyone has been happy with ESPN having the playoffs.
Get up to speed Sparty Boy. ESPN was the sole bidder:

 
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Get up to speed Sparty Boy. ESPN was the sole bidder:

No I knew the sole bidder thing, the stupid sub license thing for 2026 and beyond threw me off.

My bad you’re right on this one
 
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The fact they talked TNT Sports into paying them top dollar for the two quarterfinals that are up against the NFL shows you why Warner Bros Discovery isn't long for this world. The mouse just absolutely worked them.
 
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So, I had a nice conversation with a Cal Bear friend of mine last night. We've been friends for a long time, go to games together, etc. He is a super smart guy but not a pure egg-head. He understands and appreciates sports. So, nut-nut, he didn't like the Pac breaking up and Cal landing in the ACC due to losing regional rivalries, travel, etc. However, when I mentioned that it didn't have to end this way with Cal in the far away ACC, as the Big Xii reached out to the Pac TWICE to merge, and I am sure Cal and Stanford would have been acceptable to the Big Xii (if those two schools were interested), and he was hung up on not wanting Cal to be in the same conference with BYU, Baylor and TCU (stated) and the other lesser public schools (implied). Seriously, as much as I like Cal, they got what they deserved IMO.
 

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Get up to speed Sparty Boy. ESPN was the sole bidder:

Yeah but that agreement further distances the SEC and B1G from the rest. Northwestern will be making >$21 million annually from the CFP alone, while the best team from the ACC will be making >$13 million. The best team from the Big 12 will be making >$12 million. So why would schools in the B1G and SEC willingly blow that system up as (I think?) you've been saying they will/would with the CST stuff?
 

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Yeah but that agreement further distances the SEC and B1G from the rest. Northwestern will be making >$21 million annually from the CFP alone, while the best team from the ACC will be making >$13 million. The best team from the Big 12 will be making >$12 million. So why would schools in the B1G and SEC willingly blow that system up as (I think?) you've been saying they will/would with the CST stuff?
I think it's funny how there are many schools in the Big 10 that are poor to mediocre at best in football who are on the same level playing field as everyone else in their conference for $$ distribution. I am a firm believer it's just a matter of time before the Michigan/OSU/PSU/USC/Wash/OR teams finally look at the Indiana, Maryland, NW, Purdon't, Minn, Rutgers, etc. and say "We're sick of carrying you guys along. We can make much more money without you guys"
 

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Yeah but that agreement further distances the SEC and B1G from the rest. Northwestern will be making >$21 million annually from the CFP alone, while the best team from the ACC will be making >$13 million. The best team from the Big 12 will be making >$12 million. So why would schools in the B1G and SEC willingly blow that system up as (I think?) you've been saying they will/would with the CST stuff?
They would make even more money in payouts with P4 inventory aggregation and bidding it out NFL style plus there would be rational geographic realignment. That is why Tennessee AD, Danny White, is a CST Ambassador.
 

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They would make even more money in payouts with P4 inventory aggregation and bidding it out NFL style plus there would be rational geographic realignment. That is why Tennessee AD, Danny White, is a CST Ambassador.
But didn't all those other networks have the chance to bid on the expanded playoffs that ESPN just locked up as the sole bidder?
 

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I think it's funny how there are many schools in the Big 10 that are poor to mediocre at best in football who are on the same level playing field as everyone else in their conference for $$ distribution. I am a firm believer it's just a matter of time before the Michigan/OSU/PSU/USC/Wash/OR teams finally look at the Indiana, Maryland, NW, Purdon't, Minn, Rutgers, etc. and say "We're sick of carrying you guys along. We can make much more money without you guys"
Good luck with that.
 

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Good luck with that.
History speaks for itself. The bottom feeders of the Big 10 and SEC are not immune to realignment. It's always about money. And the elite programs will continue to find ways to allocate more of the money to themselves. These realignments are far from over
 

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History speaks for itself. The bottom feeders of the Big 10 and SEC are not immune to realignment. It's always about money. And the elite programs will continue to find ways to allocate more of the money to themselves. These realignments are far from over
The B1G has been around since 1896 and has never once kicked out a member institution.
 

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The B1G has been around since 1896 and has never once kicked out a member institution.
LOL - and you think that means all the teams are safe going forward?? Sorry buddy. Nobody is immune from realignment, not even Iowa

Edit: by the way... USC, UCLA, OR, WA didn't kick the others out of the PAC 12 either.... they just left the conference. Who is to say the 20 or so elite programs in the nation won't form their own conference and just leave their respective conference?
 
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The B1G has been around since 1896 and has never once kicked out a member institution.
And the Pac 12 was around for over a hundred years and came out of the 2010 realignment looking like champs. Look where they are at now. Iowa will probably make the new super conference but if the powers in the Big Ten and SEC have a way to "merge" and shed the teams not bringing in the revenue they receive, why would they keep them?
 

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LOL - and you think that means all the teams are safe going forward?? Sorry buddy. Nobody is immune from realignment, not even Iowa

Edit: by the way... USC, UCLA, OR, WA didn't kick the others out of the PAC 12 either.... they just left the conference.
Well unlike the situation with USCLAORWA, I doubt the bottom feeders of the B1G will actively be looking for ways out of the conference.

I know nobody's immune from realignment, I just think anyone who thinks the SEC or B1G are going to start kicking out member schools are either coping or delusional. JMO.
 

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And the Pac 12 was around for over a hundred years and came out of the 2010 realignment looking like champs. Look where they are at now. Iowa will probably make the new super conference but if the powers in the Big Ten and SEC have a way to "merge" and shed the teams not bringing in the revenue they receive, why would they keep them?
Yeah but the PAC was essentially dying as a conference. That's the exact opposite of where the B1G and SEC are. Comparing those situations is just kind of silly IMO.
 

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They would make even more money in payouts with P4 inventory aggregation and bidding it out NFL style plus there would be rational geographic realignment. That is why Tennessee AD, Danny White, is a CST Ambassador.

But their financial “lead” and advantages over Big 12, ACC, and others would decrease.

The reason for most schools in P2 is monetary imo. It’s that reverting back to smaller regional conferences gives them a chance to actually compete.

But it’s meaningless unless the biggest brands want it. And why would they? Tennessee’s AD being an Ambassador is a nice resume bullet for him, but hardly indicative of big brands being in favor
 

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LOL - and you think that means all the teams are safe going forward?? Sorry buddy. Nobody is immune from realignment, not even Iowa

Edit: by the way... USC, UCLA, OR, WA didn't kick the others out of the PAC 12 either.... they just left the conference. Who is to say the 20 or so elite programs in the nation won't form their own conference and just leave their respective conference?
This has been discussed a lot and the simple reason isn’t show elite programs stay elite by exploiting many inherent advantages they have. Moving into a 20 team super league will cause massive damage to those brands as they regularly rack up losing seasons. In addition to the fact that a 20 team super league would alienate so many fan bases that the ratings would tank and the money would dry up.
 

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Well unlike the situation with USCLAORWA, I doubt the bottom feeders of the B1G will actively be looking for ways out of the conference.

I know nobody's immune from realignment, I just think anyone who thinks the SEC or B1G are going to start kicking out member schools are either coping or delusional. JMO.
Why on earth would the B1G bottom feeders be looking for ways out of the conference?
 

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This has been discussed a lot and the simple reason isn’t show elite programs stay elite by exploiting many inherent advantages they have. Moving into a 20 team super league will cause massive damage to those brands as they regularly rack up losing seasons. In addition to the fact that a 20 team super league would alienate so many fan bases that the ratings would tank and the money would dry up.
Yeah, but they care more about saying "you can't sit with us" than anything. So who knows.
 
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Yeah but the PAC was essentially dying as a conference. That's the exact opposite of where the B1G and SEC are. Comparing those situations is just kind of silly IMO.
I never said the Big Ten (or SEC) is going to die. You are kidding yourself if you don't think that Michigan, OSU, USC, UW, OR, Bama, Georgia, Texas are just going to sit on their hands if they believe they can make more money by getting rid of teams not holding their weight. Just hope your hawks make the cut.
 

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