Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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No, ESPN and Fox wouldn't agree to this as it's laid out. Of course, Sankey and Petitti are their puppets.

Should note that Tennessee AD Danny White is now listed as a CST ambassador with those from the ACC and B12. That is big for the CST given that the B10 and SEC wouldn't previously talk to the CST due to ESPN and Fox pressure.
What is CST
 
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What is CST
A group called College Sports Tomorrow (CST) wants to reform college football as we know it.

CST is a 20-person group that includes executives from universities like West Virginia and Syracuse, the NFL and Philadelphia 76ers owner David Blitzer.
 
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They aren’t drawing those eye balls when half of them have losing records and people lose interest. These super teams have a large following because they win. You lose that when you don’t win.
This is exactly why I don't think a 30-team superleague was ever going to be a thing. First, getting all of the most elite brands/programs in college football to agree on anything would be a serious challenge. Second, once you have that superleague limited to the bluest of bluebloods, eventually there's going to be a top half and a bottom half. No way to avoid it. So all of a sudden 15 of those elite programs are no longer elite, and the top half will wonder why they're giving them an equal revenue split. Then the top half cuts them out and you have a 15 program superduperleague. And eventually, there's a top half and a bottom half of that. Rinse, repeat.
 
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WSU/Ore St really flubbed up just not joining MWC as it is or making it happen in a way they keep all the Pac and MWC assets collectively. Crazy they cannot seem to get an 8th team to sign up.

They could have still added Gonzaga for non-fb sports.

They could have even kicked the tires on Montana/Montana St or both to go to 15/16, maybe NDSU. Montana schools fit geographic footprint like a glove, bring a new state and could compete in football right away. Sagarin would have both of them as 5th out of 12 MWC teams this year, better than average already.
 

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WSU/Ore St really flubbed up just not joining MWC as it is or making it happen in a way they keep all the Pac and MWC assets collectively. Crazy they cannot seem to get an 8th team to sign up.

They could have still added Gonzaga for non-fb sports.

They could have even kicked the tires on Montana/Montana St or both to go to 15/16, maybe NDSU. Montana schools fit geographic footprint like a glove, bring a new state and could compete in football right away. Sagarin would have both of them as 5th out of 12 MWC teams this year, better than average already.
Most likely they are negotiating right now with Memphis to see if they can get them into the league. It will come down to how much money the PAC can afford to spend on the buyout.

Texas State has an offer from the MWC, but would prefer the PAC so they haven't accepted yet. They would be the most likely fallback if negotiations with Memphis fall through.

They've been very clear that they want to keep the conference smaller to leave off "deadweight", so adding teams to go up to 15/16 was never on the table.
 

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They aren’t drawing those eye balls when half of them have losing records and people lose interest. These super teams have a large following because they win. You lose that when you don’t win.
Lol

The top P2 matchups in the top windows by nature won’t involve teams with losing records. For example, see how Florida isn’t featured at the moment. That’s the benefit of the P2 being 16+ deep of big brands. There’s almost always a high potential ratings game

And the BIG already routinely pulled despite often not having great matchups.

Consolidation to P2 is undoubtedly better for ratings than the P5 was
 

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Oh my gosh, 15%!?! A whole extra 10-15mil!?! That will certainly make them throw out a system that they love and are dominating in for that. Come one man at least say double the money or something.

Sports media deals keep going up, we saw it with college, we see that with the NBA, NFL, etc. If those ever start to stagnate then I agree your position has merit
When there is fear a peer can take that $15 million and funnel it to players, it already has merit. That prisoners dilemma is how we got here

And the extra money isn’t first offered to those at the top. They start with enough 2nd tier P2 $15 more than anyone else is how to unravel current setup
 

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Lol

The top P2 matchups in the top windows by nature won’t involve teams with losing records. For example, see how Florida isn’t featured at the moment. That’s the benefit of the P2 being 16+ deep of big brands. There’s almost always a high potential ratings game

And the BIG already routinely pulled despite often not having great matchups.

Consolidation to P2 is undoubtedly better for ratings than the P5 was
You are talking P2 when the conversation is about a super league. They lose eyeballs when they form their own league and alienate most of college football. They become the XFL, or NFL Europe. Sounds great at first. But then they found out it isn’t.
 

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Most likely they are negotiating right now with Memphis to see if they can get them into the league. It will come down to how much money the PAC can afford to spend on the buyout.

Texas State has an offer from the MWC, but would prefer the PAC so they haven't accepted yet. They would be the most likely fallback if negotiations with Memphis fall through.

They've been very clear that they want to keep the conference smaller to leave off "deadweight", so adding teams to go up to 15/16 was never on the table.

I really don’t see the leftover MWC as a drastic drop off in football. WSU and Ore St aren’t incredibly advantaged teams on their own long term in a g5 type conference. It would be like expecting ISU to have no drop off in the MAC and ISU has advantages on at least wsu.
 

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You are talking P2 when the conversation is about a super league. They lose eyeballs when they form their own league and alienate most of college football. They become the XFL, or NFL Europe. Sounds great at first. But then they found out it isn’t.
It would be way bigger than the XFL and CFL and all the other leagues but yes it would lose some eyeballs.
 

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I thought Memphis had all of that sweet sweet FedEx dough
They’re probably in a high enough tier of G5 that they can slow play and negotiate for better terms. Tulane and USF are in that same stratosphere.

It’s gonna be bizarre if the ACC implodes and Cal/Stanford end up back in the PAC 12. This whole thing is a circus.
 

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Geographic proximity is #1, but we just happened to jump over two entire states' worth of schools to make sure Ohio State and Michigan aren't in the same division.


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Geographic proximity is #1, but we just happened to jump over two entire states' worth of schools to make sure Ohio State and Michigan aren't in the same division.


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Oh, and Notre Dame, you get the easiest imaginable path every single year because of course a team in Indiana gets to be the East.

Also, Navy gets to be in the top league and apparently Army and Air Force have completely dropped the sport.
 

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Oh, and Notre Dame, you get the easiest imaginable path every single year because of course a team in Indiana gets to be the East.

Also, Navy gets to be in the top league and apparently Army and Air Force have completely dropped the sport.
Each division having a very obvious "Top Dog" the powers that be would love to win it annually is so blatant it's hilarious.
 
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