Im guessing it would be ND/Stanford to Big10. UNC/UVA to SEC and then everything else is who can leverage themselves where.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Does the Big 10 want Stanford? I get they're elite academically, but they already passed on them when they took Oregon and Washington.
I would assume yes since Cal is public and Stanford is private.
This mostly assumes that the next rounds are expansion and not contraction. Either schools being dumped from P2 leagues. Or the P2 big fish following the Notre Dame model and going independent. I still suspect this is looming. There are few teams left to add value to the P2.
Legally I am sure they are free and clear, but the optics would be bad. I would think that leaves Cal stuck in the WAC. They might try to remain a package deal.
Eh, I think optics left the conversation long ago when Oklahoma left Oklahoma State, Oregon left Oregon State, and Washington left Washington State
I don’t disagree. But elitist snobs stick together. It could be interesting watching Cal be banished to obscurity. They may go independent instead of joining the WAC.
Maybe the question is broader. If the Big10 adds Stanford, do they need to add another west coast school to keep an even number.
The Big10 is currently at 18. If they decide to expand to 24 does that include:
- Existing 18 schools (with 4 former Pac12)
- Add 4 current ACC (ND+UNC+UVA+???)
- Add Stanford + Cal (or a Pac12 team that jumped to Big12)
Cal already got banished by their fellow in state public when UCLA bailed on them. Those snobs chased the cash.
I don’t think you’ll get contraction, but I do think the next step is top tier independents breaking away or unequal revenue for the top teams. One final step before the house of cards collapses or drastically changes.
I don’t know why people still ask questions like this. Remember that airtight unbreakable ACC GOR? Nothing matters anymore. Laws, rules, norms, nothing.
True Snobs only love the smell of their own farts, not other snob’s farts.
What's interesting is since the acc added 3 more schools, they have an easier road to survival than the PAC. The PAC just had no options to expand and not enough left to hold a league together, the acc could lose 6 schools and still have 10 p5 schools. Add the two PAC schools and they are up to 12. It would be the 4th best league by a longshot but would likely get a cfp spot every year. It's a step down but it's already the 4th best league, it they can patch something together, it's not as devastating as what the PAC was looking at.
The big mystery just seems to be what the SEC will do. If they didn't want those two teams, do they not want any acc teams? Are they going to be looking at big 12 teams? Does the big ten grab UVA and UNC then stay put? Do they start looking at big 12 schools? Do the SEC and big ten go after each other? What other schools would the the big 12 possibly want from the acc? This is the last domino to fall and will little be a big one.
The big mystery just seems to be what the SEC will do. If they didn't want those two teams, do they not want any acc teams? Are they going to be looking at big 12 teams? Does the big ten grab UVA and UNC then stay put? Do they start looking at big 12 schools? Do the SEC and big ten go after each other? What other schools would the the big 12 possibly want from the acc? This is the last domino to fall and will little be a big one.
the former SEC commissioner said flat out he wanted UNC and VT most. I know streaming has become bigger, but Id be 100 percent shocked if the SEC doesnt want to expand into north carolina and virginia. VT fits SEC culture much better than UVA.
If UNC chose the BIG over the SEC, i think nc state would be a take over fsu and clemson. of course the sec couls take all 4, but im not sure they'd piss off florida to get fsu.
Florida has way more clout than the aggies, and fsu isnt Texas. Florida could also flip off the SEC and join the BIG. not sure the sec wants fsu badly enough to piss off the gators.
If UNC chose the BIG over the SEC, i think nc state would be a take over fsu and clemson. of course the sec couls take all 4, but im not sure they'd piss off florida to get fsu.
Florida has way more clout than the aggies, and fsu isnt Texas. Florida could also flip off the SEC and join the BIG. not sure the sec wants fsu badly enough to piss off the gators.
There are a handful who would add value to either, a few that would be much more valuable to one than the other, but not a whole lot of them either way.
People mention Stanford. That would likely reduce B10 money for some sort of feeling of prestige. UNC and UVA offer plenty to either and keep up the charade of B10 caring about academic profile which is why they are constantly mentioned.
I’m not sold that it will be FSU/Clemson landing in the Big 12 but I don’t see these conferences expanding far past 20 and there will be some valuable things for Big 12 to add no matter what whenever ACC collapses. If somehow Yormark were to add FSU/Clemson in a meaningful lasting way it would be a massive coup to keep pace in football and not just be the power 1 basketball conference.
I don't worry about it anyway. It's going to evolve, continuously, and anyone that thinks they know the end result are lying to themselves.
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