Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Agreed with other posters. I think NC State would be a fantastic add for the SEC. It's the largest University in a growing state that loves football and doesn't have a SEC presence. They'll fit right in with the conference culturally and in most metrics.
If UNC goes to the B1G like many expect, I think NC State would benefit from getting out of the Tar Heels shadow and ramping up their programs in the SEC.
When the ACC breaks up, I have no doubt the Wolf pack will have a home.
If UNC goes to the B1G like many expect, I think NC State would benefit from getting out of the Tar Heels shadow and ramping up their programs in the SEC.
When the ACC breaks up, I have no doubt the Wolf pack will have a home.
Do you think with the situation surrounding OUT and the threat of law suites, their buyout was probably high. I don’t know, but it seemed like they paid more than would have been expected. Just my take.
interesting. I'm new to the area and was surprised the city was so sad. gonna check out a game there is fall... along with MSU and michigan. should be great
Has to be "Huggins Bowl" presented by Pabst Blue Ribbon. Huggie's a PBR guy.
If enough ACC schools vote to disband, the GOR is out the window and all the “fees” you referred to are no more. There’s a reason OU/UT/ESPN were trying to FOMO more Big 12 teams to the AAC. Fortunately Texas A&M (inadvertently) thwarted that plan.
It is tougher to get the votes to disband a conference if you add more schools hence why FSU, Clemson, and UNC all are against.
The campus is beautiful. When I go to games I never stay in South Bend, it's very expensive. I stay in Chicago and drive to and from the game. If you go, get to campus early and explore, I love the Ames campus but ND is on another level.
Sorry, must be that great ISU English department. Engineers don't need to spell anyway.
L'ville, Pitt, GT and Duke to the Big12 then too? (UConn/SDSU if Duke gets a Big10 bid)
Conference Numbers 2024:
Big 10 -- 18
Big 12 -- 16
SEC ----- 16
ACC ----- 15 (football excludes Notre Dame)
Mountain West -- 11 +2 affiliated
PAC 10 - 4 (2024)
It is obvious that the B1G can only take two more teams or they would pass the 20 team magic number.
This means that the Big 12 can take four, including two from the Northeast, say NC and NCSt, and two from the south, say Miami and GaTech. Or you pickem.
The result would be to create three 20 team super conferences, thus simplifying things for ESPN, Fox, CBS, etc. and the football and basketball playoffs. The old ACC remnant would be left hanging with the Pac12 remnant, AAC, and Mountain West. And who cares about ND as they think they are better than all of us.
You can't dissolve the ACC to terminate the GOR (and it has been confirmed the ACC GOR mirrors the B12's):
NC State is super underrated in ACC expansion talk. They have traditionally had good attendance and a fanbase that is dedicated.
As the media value shifts to proactive viewership, NC State will be a more attractive for expansion than people think.
JFC after reading that, if I'm in charge of a P5 athletic dept, I'm never signing a GoR ever again. Talk about having your nuts chopped off.
If you look at it this way, there are 10 spots for 15 members. I think the general consensus is the BC wouldn’t make it, but the others 4 to be left out would be harder for me to pick.
Why do you point out the affiliated members for the MTW?
MTW has 2 associates, 1 for football, 1 for womens soccer. I get you include the FB one, because most of this is about FB and FB is what people think about. But most conferences have associated members. Just not all in FB.
All the others have affiliates too, Big 12 has 13 associates, just not in FB.
B1G has 2 associates....including ND.
ACC and SEC dont have associates, but several members play other sports as affiliates in other conferences. Although ND in the ACC, is not a full member, they still have voting rights etc.
The AAC has 7 associates, 1 of those in FB.
etc etc.
This is why so many of us say it is a lot harder to get out of the GOR than some think.
Some think its easy, and is only like a 100M payment and poof its over.
It is a lot more difficult than many believe. Unless there is a loophole found, but these things are written to eliminate those loopholes.
It will be 4 of these, BC is almost for sure out. Then the rest have at least an argument. And I can see any of those making it, or being left out.
It would be hard to believe Dukes BB doesnt get them in, GT has academics and location, but we saw how much that mattered with Stanford. Most have Syracuse as a very low value add. Wake is the least valuable of the 4 schools in NC.
BC
Syracuse
Louisville
Wake
Duke
GT
If I had to pick the 4 that would be left out it would be BC, Syracuse, Louisville, Wake. And GT would be on the Bubble.
Apparently Studebakers plant employed 30,000 at its peak when the city had 130,000. That’s crazy.
Just did a nice rust belt tour driving to NC.
South Bend is sketchy outside of the Notre Dame area. The post about comparing it to Gary isn't that far off.
