Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[isucy86]

Has anyone gone through and added up just how much Fox and ESPN will need to pay to make these 24 team conferences happen at the current rates?

OR - $35 mil
WA - $35 mil
CU - $31 mil
AZ - $31 mil
ASU - $31 mil
UU - $31 mil
Total - $194 mil

Really makes you wonder about the value of those remaining 4 teams in the PAC if they’re getting offers around $200 mil + incentives. I guess maybe these teams will be more valuable playing road games in the central time zone, but it does seem like there’s a whole lot of money being saved over offering the PAC a contract.

I’m wondering if there’ll be some calls from TV execs tomorrow trying to put a wet blanket on some of these moves.

Yea, I think the last thing ESPN and FOX want is the ACC imploding right now. Would be a lot easier to deal with in 2030 when the Big10/Big12 TV contracts are up for renewal. And maybe there is a clearer picture of streaming valuation.

But the good thing about the 6 schools you mention is the money is spread around:

Big10 would basically split OR/WA $70M among FOX, NBC & CBS
Big12 would split the 4 corners $128M at ESPN ($80M) and FOX ($48)

I would hope all those conglomerates could deal with $25M to $80M of annual rights fees. Rounding errors!

 

[NWICY]

What in the world would cause someone to type such nonsense?

Making the FB playoffs dumbshit.

 

[cycloneworld]

I want us to stop with AZ. Let ASU and UU dwindle in the PAC leftovers. Honestly, who is taking them, we can grab them whenever we want. If Oregon, Washington and AZ leave, there is not enough meat on the bone for the ACC to gain merging with them. Let’s be patient

Utah, for their massively annoying fan base, has the 3rd best ratings in the Pac12 and is coming off 2 conference titles and 2 NY6 bowls. Big 12 would be dumb not to take them.

 

[NWICY]

A ***** for a dollar or $1000 is still a *****. Might as well be a rich one.

Well I didn't realize wh*re was still a bad word.

 

[BCClone]

Well I didn't realize wh*re was still a bad word.

You can have multiple whores, just not one *****.

 

[Daserop]

Utah, for their massively annoying fan base, has the 3rd best ratings in the Pac12 and is coming off 2 conference titles and 2 NY6 bowls. Big 12 would be dumb not to take them.

Winning the PAC isn't that difficult. They also lost both there NY6 bowl games. They are overrated.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Getting excited about this being real. With the Four Corners, we should borrow the B1G's 16 team scheduling model.

Have up to 3 protected teams and play 6 of the remaining 12 teams. So you play rivals annually and everyone else once per 2 years.

Hoops should have 5 home and homes and 10 single games for a 20-game schedule. Maybe 3 of those 5 can be protected and the other 2 home and homes can be on a rotation.

Iowa State should have KU and K-State protected in both sports. Don't really care too much otherwise, although getting Oklahoma State in hoops as well would be fun.

 

[Cyhig]

Favorite Utah moment

 

[HFCS]

Winning the PAC isn't that difficult. They also lost both there NY6 bowl games. They are overrated.

UConn had a conf championship and bcs bowl shortly before they were relegated.

Utah has had some good teams lately but no scary good elite teams like their early to mid 00s teams were. They certainly aren’t going to come in and dominate a better deeper fb conference like the Big 12.

 

[AlaCyclone]

UConn had a conf championship and bcs bowl shortly before they were relegated.

Utah has had some good teams lately but no scary good elite teams like their early to mid 00s teams were. They certainly aren’t going to come in and dominate a better deeper fb conference like the Big 12.

So, UCONN then!
/ sarcasm

 

[cyatheart]

So this is why I have a hard time seeing Stanford or Cal in the B1G. The Pac is about to blow up because the schools left after USCLA bolted aren't worth enough to match B12 money. Now the TV networks will end up paying B12 rates for the 4 corners and B1G rates for WAOR, Stanford, and Cal? It would have been cheaper to just pay the Pac 12 enough to hold it together.

Stanford and Cal get demoted with OSU and WSU. Still think it is possible a couple others get left beyond that.

I just can't see the big ten teams playing Stanford in front of 15k fans, cal doesn't even field teams hardly...because eventually you have to give them a full share...they going to give cal and Stanford 100m? That's insane to me, don't care how many subs they get out there

 

[MeanDean]

So I could see a scenario where if Fox won't pony up for teams 15 and 16 but some kind of compromise is worked out where AZ, ASU and UTAH all take smaller payouts for the short term for them to be admitted and gain conference stability.

Or maybe BY can negotiate one extra $12mil from Fox for ASU and UU to split and AZ gets the whole share.

 

[ISUTex]

UConn had a conf championship and bcs bowl shortly before they were relegated.

Utah has had some good teams lately but no scary good elite teams like their early to mid 00s teams were. They certainly aren’t going to come in and dominate a better deeper fb conference like the Big 12.

And how many national titles has the men's basketball team won in the last 25 years compared to Duke, Kansas, UNC, Kentucky and UCLA????

 

[Clonehomer]

So I could see a scenario where if Fox won't pony up for teams 15 and 16 but some kind of compromise is worked out where AZ, ASU and UTAH all take smaller payouts for the short term for them to be admitted and gain conference stability.

Or maybe BY can negotiate one extra $12mil from Fox for ASU and UU to split and AZ gets the whole share.

I can’t. Arizona will get a full share. The ESPN contract allows for 16 teams. Offer the other two that amount. If they want it, great. If not, we’ll that’s fine too.

 

[jdoggivjc]

If UO and UW stay, the PAC survives most likely, even if we take the four corners. They will back fill to ten and wait out a big ten invite. It may even mean that the other four corners stick around anyhow.

Yes, it survives - but it is never a threat to the Big 12 ever again - especially if/when the Big 10 finally comes calling for ORWA.

Sign me up for that.

 

[Cmonwhatarewedoinghereman]

And how many national titles has the men's basketball team won in the last 25 years compared to Duke, Kansas, UNC, Kentucky and UCLA????

Big 10: Oregon, Washington
SEC: FSU, clemson, Miami, one lottery winning team tbd
Duke, Carolina a package deal to one of those conferences.
If they go sec, the big 10 does uva and notre dame
If they go big 10, sec does nothing and we raid the rest of the ACC

 

[RustShack]

This ACC stuff is a bluff. ESPN isn’t going to let the SEC raid the ACC just so ESPN can pay a lot more for the same teams.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I can’t. Arizona will get a full share. The ESPN contract allows for 16 teams. Offer the other two that amount. If they want it, great. If not, we’ll that’s fine too.

I'm guessing FOX isn't going to have any issue kicking in a couple more shares. They're getting what they wanted out of the Pac without having to pay for what they didn't want anyway.

 

[RustShack]

Fox also has help paying these bills. ESPN pays most of the Big12, B1G also has CBS, NBC, B1G Network(which I believe also makes Fox money).

 

[Cmonwhatarewedoinghereman]

This ACC stuff is a bluff. ESPN isn’t going to let the SEC raid the ACC just so ESPN can pay a lot more for the same teams.

The ACC is dead. The ACC network has nothing left. Take the schools with actual value and add them to your money maker. SEC prints money.