Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[HFCS]

Maybe even a walk. It would require the minimum amount of effort. That being said, walks are helpful.

If by some miracle there's only 1 or 2 ACC defections...it's a piece off the board for them.

 

[HFCS]

Right on time, chart boy with a chart I actually agree with except which is most likely: No more losses or 1 more loss is the Pac Surviving... at least another 3-5 years. Significant loss or nuclear option to me is Pac extinction.

Sorry if he already blocked you and you can't see this tweet.

Am I reading that correctly that he says Colorado is the Pac's worst team like U of Chicago was the Big Ten's worst team a century ago when they left? And replacing them with Michigan State is identical to Pac adding San Diego State.

It's the lower left part of the "chart".

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I think you might be surprised if you look at NCSt's football attendance. VT too. In fact VT is probably more popular in Virginia than UVA. Both VT and NCSt have consistently good football attendance. They are both top-75 in academics. NC State probably wouldn't get an invite to either the BIG or SEC but VT probably could get one.

I’m not going to argue about attendance numbers again. VT wouldn’t get one to the big ten because they would just get Virginia. Both are good academic schools for sure but neither have much in the way of brand recognition or national appeal. VT has been nothing since beemer left.

 

[CyGuy5]

That’s a decent comparison. There was a time where if you saw someone in ISU gear it probably meant they or someone close to them went to school there. It’s like that in GA for GT, but more extreme. They’re basically in the Hayden Fry dark ages with UGA pummeling them consistently for over a decade.

GT has had flashes of basketball success, but have been dismal in football and hoops lately. Pair it with the rise of UGA, and Atlanta isn’t even GT’s territory. It’s Braves, UGA (especially with all of the games played at the Benz these past few years), and Falcons.

GA State, Kennesaw State, and GA Southern all have D1 football as well.

I have never met a “T-Shirt” GT fan. The school itself is exceptional, and it’s noted that the academic rigors hurt a lot of their recruiting. The alums I know (who care about football) do love their Yellow Jackets though.

There was a time? It’s still like that for Iowa State. I haven’t met a single T-shirt Cyclone fan

 

[NATEizKING]

13 teams would be fine.

6 teams home and away, 3 teams home, 3 teams away for 18 games like we play now in basketball.

Go back to 8 conference games in football and play rotating 4/4/4. You get a team home, away, year off in a 3 year rotation.

I don't care about protected rivalries in football anymore.

 

[Big_Sill]

Agree. There will be something called the PAC. The question is whether they’ll have an AQ spot in the CFP.

Correct me if wrong, but I think its just "six highest-ranked conference champions", so seems like PAC leftovers would still have a decent chance at that compared to who.... MW (maybe gone), AAC, Conf USA, MAC?

 

[helechopper]

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[Scruff]

Am I reading that correctly that he says Colorado is the Pac's worst team like U of Chicago was the Big Ten's worst team a century ago when they left? And replacing them with Michigan State is identical to Pac adding San Diego State.

It's the lower left part of the "chart".

No one has been a bigger a-hole and more delusional than him during this entire run.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Am I reading that correctly that he says Colorado is the Pac's worst team like U of Chicago was the Big Ten's worst team a century ago when they left? And replacing them with Michigan State is identical to Pac adding San Diego State.

It's the lower left part of the "chart".

Well I’m insulted lol. Also wild to reference a realignment move from 80 years ago which was also 19 years before SDSU even had a football team

 

[exCyDing]

Agree. There will be something called the PAC. The question is whether they’ll have an AQ spot in the CFP.

I was certain of this at one point, but now I'm not so sure.

Case for MWC schools joining the PAC:

• PAC brand > MWC brand
• A few years left on the current CFP deal
• Better bowl agreements in place
• Taking the PAC + the top of the MWC would probably be a better and more lucrative conference, long-term

Case for PAC schools joining the MWC:

• At least the MWC has a media deal
• $35M buyout for MWC to join the PAC for 2024, $0 buyout for PAC to join the MWC. Most schools in both conferences are pretty strapped for cash right now. Even though it's short-term, this could be a giant hurdle

The PAC really backed themselves into a corner by delaying and delaying. If this all goes down in June or before, SDSU is probably voting today to join the PAC as a replacement for Colorado, with SMU the launching pad in case more schools bolt. UNLV, Boise St, Fresno St, CO St and others are all sitting by the phone.

 

[HFCS]

Well I’m insulted lol. Also wild to reference a realignment move from 80 years ago which was also 19 years before SDSU even had a football team

Big Ten should have forgot about UCLA and added SDSU, they bring exact same cache as Michigan State.

 

[jbhtexas]

This is a problem for every school not in the BIG or SEC. Name a school not in the BIG or SEC that wouldn’t take an invite from the BIG or SEC.

It isn’t about instability, its just the game… you take the invite to the ‘big leagues’ if one comes. We all know it… so its cool.

Instability most certainly plays a part, because instability hurts the next TV deal, which isn't really that far away for the Big 12. This is where Yormark earns his money by looking into his crystal ball. What are the Big Ten's aspirations?

If the outlook is reasonably certain that that the Big Ten wants Oregon and/or Washington, but just not right now, then to me it seems foolish to add Oregon and/or Washington to the Big 12. Why? Because the three years before the end of the media deal will be a fiasco. Media partners will be hesitant to make good offers knowing two of the flaships are likely to leave, and with hesitant media partners, the other schools who may have a legit shot in the Big Two will start actively looking around (basically what the Pac-12 is going through now).

KU and CU are AAU and have some pedigree, and would fit into the Big Ten. OkSU would fit nicely into the SEC. The Big 12 doesn't need a situation where hesitant media partners/lack of good offers makes these schools nervous and actively pursuing other options.

On the other hand, if the crystal ball indicates that the Big Ten is looking eastward, then perhaps a gamble is warranted.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Big Ten should have forgot about UCLA and added SDSU, they bring exact same cache as Michigan State.

Honestly surprised sparty hasn’t been kicked out by SDSU. Hope the pac doesn’t decide to go shopping in the big ten lol

 

[Cyghhh]

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I am getting zero work done

 

[1UNI2ISU]

13 teams would be fine.

6 teams home and away, 3 teams home, 3 teams away for 18 games like we play now in basketball.

Go back to 8 conference games in football and play rotating 4/4/4. You get a team home, away, year off in a 3 year rotation.

I don't care about protected rivalries in football anymore.

The Big 12s TV contracts require 9 league games.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

Interesting to hear this about NE schools and GTech, I suspected that but wasn't sure. That's what I've been telling everyone about UCLA and San Diego State...I'm dead serious you're more likely to run into a fellow Cyclone fans in LA or San Diego than a passionate fan of those school's sports teams.

NW and Illinois are like that too. Chicago has a ton of other B10 fans but Illinois and NW fans barely exist anywhere.

Georgia Tech isn't even like the ISU of Georgia where they have maybe 1/3 or 1/4 of fans and the fans they do have are crazy passionate like Cyclones?

Georgia is the land grant school of Georgia.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I am getting zero work done

I’m very happy it’s July so we’re drowning in residents/interns/students lol

 

[NATEizKING]

The Big 12s TV contracts require 9 league games.

Play a conf team that isn't in the rotation that year and doesn't count in standings, isn't that what the B12 in Mexico will be? Also remember B10 teams playing teams in their conference that were already scheduled after joining that didn't count for standings.

 

[JRE1975]

I've got to think BY is moving in that direction with the LHN moving out, I could see ESPN replacing it with the Big 12 network

I think ESPN would get more money from our conference ESPN+ subscriptions than fees to cable companies for a Big 12 network.

 

[jctisu]

I'd take them in basketball but everything else...just not doing it for me.

Oh well, I suppose I'm going to trust in BY's decision making at this point.

Not that this has any merits, but UConn baseball is actually really good as far as other sports. But yeah football they got a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG way to to.