Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

SEIOWA CLONE

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The schools will do whatever the the courts say they have to do.

The NCAA is afraid of getting smoked in court and then having zero ability to dictate. Which it may be too late. They made a pivot to opening things up in effort to avoid a court ruling of full employment imo.

The Fed, other than the courts? What would that look like? Do you think Congress is going to codify college athletes can't transfer without sitting out and what NIL they can get? Seems very unlikely, would be challenged in court, and that would just mean MORE unregulated compensation. There does not seem to be a path towards going back to restrictive transfer rules and no NIL. The only way to implement restrictions and regulation is via compensation in return..employment.

The conferences are the schools. And there very much are schools ready for pay-to-play. So at least some schools would agree to leaving amateurism. The more schools embrace willingly paying players, the more they control what that looks like
We have already seen Alabama and aTm go round and round about the amount of money that aTm spent on NIL in this last class. There are more SEC conference schools in the corner of Alabama, without huge donors than UT and aTm, so there is nothing to stop both the SEC and B10 to put a hard cap on NIL or a pool with a hard cap, thereby forcing schools to choose how they are going to spend their money. Each school gets 10 million, you want to give a million of that to the 5 star QB, that is fine, but that leaves only 9 million for the rest of the team.
Before everyone was cheating, giving money under the table, once its on the table, schools will police other schools to make sure they are not cheating to gain an unfair advantage.

If a player tries to sue the league, the league can claim, there are plenty of other leagues the player can play in, and that will end the case. The B10 will quickly follow with rules of their own on NIL.

Transfer rules when be put into place, slowing down the amount of kids that leave the program. If a kid is guaranteed 50K to play for Alabama, is that kid going to leave and take less to play at another school, even if he is on the beach at Alabama.

The SEC and B10 can make it work just like the NFL does with their salary cap, you got so much money to give to the players and that is it, make it work.
 

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This guy is saying the exact opposite thing today on YT. He's a straight up click bait moron.

There is hope.


There is hope that something might happen.

See the article, though, or better yet don't. Dennis Dodd on what gives the appearance of his own proposal -- the "mutual destruction option" -- leaves out ISU and a few others (KU, KSU, WV, OSU, WSU)

Above that, he described three options comparable to what others have said on this board, as described by "one industry source."

Prior to that, Dodd said: "One industry source said the Pac-12 (without USC and UCLA) and Big 12 (without Texas and Oklahoma) compared to 'the Mountain West or AAC-plus.'"

Dennis Dodd appears to throw **** against the wall.
 

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There is hope.

No way Kansas gets left out of a “new” conference. Can’t see those west coast teams wanting UCF and Cincy but leaving out ISU, KU, and KSU to do it. Plus there if Oregon and Washington are the kings of the new conference I can’t see them leaving behind Oregon st and Washington St to do it. I think a “new” conference is possible with no guarantee of ISU not being left in the cold but I don’t think that’s a likely outcome.
 
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Well that makes no sense. The PAC's TV deal is garbage for a reason. There's no reason for the Big12 to take more than just the top teams. Give me 4-6 max and none of those reside in California.
But the Big Xii should take some teams and avoid the "Merger" option. The Arizona schools, Utah and Colorado will be a good fit and happy to find a landing spot. The Big Xii is a better conference and makes more money, but that means nothing if there is a merger and ISU-KSU-KU are left out.
 

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But the Big Xii should take some teams and avoid the "Merger" option. The Arizona schools, Utah and Colorado will be a good fit and happy to find a landing spot. The Big Xii is a better conference and makes more money, but that means nothing if there is a merger and ISU-KSU-KU are left out.

Also, didn't the remaining Big12 schools sign a GOR when the 4 schools were added? Maybe it's easy to fight a GOR when you're set to get $100M per year. When you're set to get a few mil increase, then it's tough to make up any buy outs.
 

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For those who still think we might as well be the CUSA or whatever post texas and ou


A lot has happened in the ten months since that was published. If it's true that, as some speculate, Fox may be focusing solely on the B1G, then that's one less bidder for our services. And who knows what other pieces may move around the board in coming days.

I'm not predicting doomsday - I don't know enough to predict anything confidently - but I also wouldn't hang my hat on all the assumptions we've had since things settled down post-OU/UT.
 
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A lot has happened in the ten months since that was published. If it's true that, as some speculate, Fox may be focusing solely on the B1G, then that's one less bidder for our services. And who knows what other pieces may move around the board in coming days.

I'm not predicting doomsday - I don't know enough to predict anything confidently - but I also wouldn't hang my hat on all the assumptions we've had since things settled down post-OU/UT.

The Big10 will be interesting to watch. If they go to a streaming service like Apple, that opens an option for the Big12. But especially now with more teams though, is think they'll be piecemealing their TV contract to multiple bidders. I doubt we hear final contracts for the Big12 until the Big10 is done.
 
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LMAO. The Anti-trust exemption is whats keeping the NFL stable vs what is happening with the college football world at the moment.

No NFL teams want that removed. Thus, they won't put themselves in a situation where a court is going to rule they are in violation of that act.
What is another example of an Anti-trust exemption? Doesn't Anti-trust law limit monopolies, etc.? If that is true, and I think it is, wouldn't and exemption to it allow more monopoly? In my way of thinking that would allow the NFL to put games on Saturday, making their share larger.

I know I probably have this backwards.
 

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The Big10 will be interesting to watch. If they go to a streaming service like Apple, that opens an option for the Big12. But especially now with more teams though, is think they'll be piecemealing their TV contract to multiple bidders. I doubt we hear final contracts for the Big12 until the Big10 is done.
**** the BiG.
 
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Also, didn't the remaining Big12 schools sign a GOR when the 4 schools were added? Maybe it's easy to fight a GOR when you're set to get $100M per year. When you're set to get a few mil increase, then it's tough to make up any buy outs.
No GOR signed yet, No new media contract yet, so no GOR.
 

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Eff DD. He has ISU being left out of Big12/Pac12 merger.
I read that "analysis" and thought about posting it, to point out the multi-level dumbness/laziness, but didn't want to give the link additional traffic. A full-on merger with only 16 teams, includes all the new Big 12 schools but boots 2 longtime members of Pac and 3 of XII. Yeah, that's the way it'll unfold, I'm sure.
 

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Duh!
One of my big opinions is that Texas leaves the SEC before or during the ACC stuff unless they're locked into a GOR, then after that. They'll realize the SEC doesnt give a **** about their 5-7 records and brand from 20 years ago while Bama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, etc are all winning and have that name as well
A&M is competing and TU thinks they will too. It will be interesting to see if their diseasEd culture continues to get in the way in the SEC.
 

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Duh!
For those who still think we might as well be the CUSA or whatever post texas and ou

The issue is not seeing the gain that others will, but this is encouraging given what we were first told.
 
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