I admire the blind delusion that things would stay the same if regulated to a lower level.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I admire the blind delusion that things would stay the same if regulated to a lower level.
The university had pricing power when OuT and Nebby were in the conference to go with the years Iowa was a road game. If you have Utah State and Northeast Missouri State every year are you saying that the university would have the same pricing power? That is plain silly. Adjust our budget? We already have and it doesn’t look good. We already had to adjust our budget for example by eliminating a wrestling complex. What do you want to cut in the next budget adjustment? Football pays the bills. If you lose $25 million in tv revenue (some of which has already happened) and another $10 million in lost pricing power from attendance what do you suggest Jamie to cut, as an adjustment to the budget? Like I said, you are making silly strawmen arguments.
Now there is talk by some voters about the state legislature putting Iowas media rights and Iowa States media rights in a pool to be shared equally. It Won’t happen but it would be interesting to see Squawk fans cry. I’m sure you would support that, wouldn’t you?
I wouldnt go to the Jack to see them play MAC schools every week and I live about a mile from there.
PAC Network ate up a **** ton of money of their distributions.
That's not what I said!! This sky is falling mantra that we'll suddenly be a MAC or MWC school is silliness. We'll play Big12 & ACC teams if the P2 breaks off. A 10 game conference schedule of: K-State, Kansas, Colorado, BYU, Arizona, TCU, Houston, Va Tech, Louisville & Duke doesn't sound bad to me. IF a SDSU, Utah State, UNLV or CSU gets thrown in there because the TV folks will pay for it- fine.
One reason I think we'll be OK is because of JP's statements. He was willing to say that if the P2 want to break away, go do it. Sure he might be posturing. He also knows that if the Big10/SEC want a 24 team playoff, then the Bi10/SEC can't go it alone. Even if the Big10/SEC expand to 40-48 teams. The Big10's lucrative media rights deal pays them roughly $1B a year for the entire regular season and CCG. ESPN is paying $1.3B for the 12 team playoff.
The play on the field won't change. There are currently around 6000 football players in the Big10, SEC, Big12 & ACC, ND. And there would be the same 6,000 players in the Big10/SEC & Big12/ACC.
Iowa State's athletic department would look different. Olympic Sports could be impacted. But Iowa State would navigate the new norm. And we would still have a great academic university.
I'd love it because Hawk fans would be in an uproar. But I wouldn't support it. Iowa is in the Big10 and gets a share of it's media rights and Iowa State is in the Big12 and gets a share of its media rights.
It's not silly at all, if the B10 and SEC break away, only in football and take some of the better teams from the ACC and B12, what do you think the media rights will be? No they will not be at the MAC level, but their media money will drop, every team will be worse off than they are today.
Also with them breaking away, there will be at most one team from the league into the playoff if even that. Nothing is stopping them to say go to 40 teams and just say only teams for those two leagues are in the playoff, and the rest of the conferences can set up their own playoff,
If the Big10/SEC break away. I doubt they'll be looking to include the Big12/ACC in the Playoff. And if they do it would be on a token basis like you mention.
If I'm Big12/ACC, I wouldn't participate in the Big10/SEC CFP invite. I would create my own playoff. I also would break away in other sports as well. I would also join with G5 schools and implode the House Settlement. As the Big10/SEC are blatantly violating the intent of the $20M cap with their 3rd party NIL entities. I would devalue current CFB &MBB revenue streams.
I fully understand revenue would drop. And that means expenses would have to drop.
Instead of so much energy going into the Protect Sports initiative. If Big12, ACC and G5 fans want to get "evil" ESPN & FOX's attention, we should boycott from watching Big10 & SEC games! If there are not enough fans in the Big12, ACC and G5 to impact viewership, then that indicates the Big10 & SEC are right in wanting to move to a P2.
Expenses don’t drop at the same rate when revenues drop. Athletic departments have a ton of fixed costs that must be paid, regardless, like depreciation, bond payments, etc. Tell me how you want Iowa State or Iowa to pay its debt if a super league comes about? Are you ready to fork out the money? Are you ready for the money to come out of the Vet Med department, Iowa Health Care, the Iowa State Foundation? What is your plan?
Meh, that "increase" is way overblown.
For about 90% of the games in most sports if not more, were already flying to every contest. So its not like they went from taking a bus across town, to flying across country. The schools that actually took a bus across town are still married in the same conference, ie UCLA and USC, Cal and Stan.
But flying to WSU Vs Flying to Iowa is not going to be that big of an increase if any. The cost of flying is just that the cost of flying, the distance does not make that much of a cost difference.
The travel distance probably is more of an issue in the time zone difference, causing teams Jetlag type issues when teams are playing games at times their body is not used to. The time of travel difference is a slight factor but a flight from LA to to say Washington is not that much different than to Ohio etc when you really look at it.
It is probably more of an issue for Stan and CAL who basically the entire conference is on the opposite coast 3 time zones away. Not as much of an issue with the teams that joined the B12, those teams were already as close to much of the B12 as they were to the P12, and had a 1 time zone change either way.
And the B10 at least also brought in 4 schools from that coast and much of the B10 is quite a bit closer to the west coast teams than the ACC schools are to Stan and Cal.
At one point I went through all the increase in travel for the Pac 12 schools in their new conferences and it was not that big of a change, at least not as much as some try to make it seem, outside Stan and Cal. But even with Stan and Cal they were flying to most places already so its not as big of a cost increase as it would be if they were busing everywhere and now fly everywhere.
I dont think it will be an instant change, but over time, you would see some people slowly lose interest, and you would see less new fans. So as fans die, move on etc there will be less exposure, less interest, less things that drive new fans, bringing in new fans to replace those falling off.
ISU having media Exposure similar to todays G5 would significantly reduce the casual fan. It would significantly reduce the visibility of the content. Not playing major opponents would definitely hurt fandom.
Think about the lack of enthusiasm when we currently play a G5 school. Think of how disappointed people are when we get stuck playing someone like Memphis in a bowl. That will eventually cause the loss of fans.
If it was just about being good, regardless of the competition, you would see a place like North Dakota State have a 90,000+ seat stadium.
You are right the Big 10 has a lot more travel distance to cover than the big 12. I was just going by the amount of round trip miles of the newbies in the conference vs the legacy members, the increase in hotel stay and the extra cost of their education especially during basketball season when teams might be gone for three or four days at a time to play two games and the cost of feeding them on the road. Like you said might not be as much as you think.
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You would be better served checking out the merry go round of FB and MBB HCs and the transfer portal exodus from both schools since they got kneecapped by Fox and the B10.
JP has publicly stated they got destroyed and he is absolutely correct. The posters here claiming they haven’t are totally whacked. He also said their relegation wasn’t enough to move the needle at the Fed level and that was highly unfortunate for both schools. It is highly obvious now that the prospect of over 20 ACC and B12 facing a similar fate was enough to move the needle.
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