You mean doing his job? The rights to one of those games are Michigans, this is literally his job
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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You mean doing his job? The rights to one of those games are Michigans, this is literally his job
Just reading the media, I would say Big 10 and SEC are losing the PR battle.
But an oil billionaire who owns the school that the big 12 runs through told me it would make everyone so much money!?! Is the billionaire wrong? How can that be!
Talking national media and respected sports sites. Don’t know what echo chamber you use. Dont you agree??it’s so obvious.
Unless the ratings drop it legit doesn’t matter what the talking heads who are only interested in clicks and views think
Nebraska and UCLA were linch pens of their former conferences, now they are just another voice in the choir. Missouri had a thriving rivalry with Kansas, and a decent one with ISU, who is their rival schools now?
Stop thinking about the athletes as they would be doing just as well under the current system if schools had not switched conferences, that is being pushed by NIL and unlimited transfers, not the conference your school is in, just look at TT and BYU. Indiana did not start winning until they hired their current coach and NIL money starting rolling in, being a member of the B10 did not help them before those two things occurred.
We all know this is not going to pass congress because the B10/SEC will lose their advantage in money over the other leagues. Even out the media money and a lot of schools in those two leagues are really not much better off than teams from the ACC and B12.
Couple things:
First UCLA hasn’t been important in anything for decades, they aren’t a lynch pin in anything except how far a basketball blue blood can fall and since the big ten had Indiana we have a matching set now. Also this board constantly talks about how Nebraska was on a major decline when the left and that it was part of the decision so which one is it? I have no idea about Missouri as I don’t know anyone who thinks about them.
You realize a big reason why NIL got pushed through is because the conferences were making so much money. If your trying to go back to before then a lot of that might not happen
Your Indiana point proves mine, before all this started and we got t the current iteration Indiana couldn’t have happened, thus they are better off. Unfortunately most of the P2 are while the other half of the P4 aren’t except for some outliers that have risen up in the new environment
Yep because the media companies are willing to pay it. They are pretty irrelevant compared to Oregon in most ways but they have a big old market and got the not with USC
UCLA had back to back 10 win season in 2013 and 2014, won eight games in 2021, nine games in 2022 and 8 again in 2023, not the bottom dwelling like you are saying. No way Indiana turns it around without their current coach and NIL, if both were in place a decade ago, they would have won then. Most of the money from the media deals are going to stadium upgrades and ever rising salaries of coaches. Not in the ability to pay players, that money is coming from outsides sources.
Being a member of the B10 is not pushing Indiana football, it's their coach and NIL, otherwise school like Purdue, Maryland, NW and others would also be doing it. Hell it was not that long ago that NW was playing for conference championships, before NIL and mass transfers. It all comes down to coaching and having enough money to buy players. No one believes the guy at TT is some great coach, but when you have money to bring in players, average coaching with great players takes you a long way.
It would make more, but single seller leverage has its limits. And scheduling can’t be on 7x10
Yep and just like with Indiana being in the P2 with those resources allows you to sky rocket if you get the right coach in place. Even more so if the schedule gods favor ya
Then explain a school like Miami, that is not in the P2 and played for the championship this past year. The only advantages the P2 schools have is the extra money from their media deals and that multiple schools from the same conference can get into the playoff. A school like BYU makes the playoff it they were in the B10 or SEC last season, but not from the B12, and their schedule last year was just as difficult if not more so then Indiana's was two years ago when they made it the first time. Penn State schedule this year is a joke, if they do not make the playoff, it would be a major disappointment.
Today it all comes down to coaching and NIL funding for the majority of the programs, if you are not a blue blood.
So using those points it sounds like playoff access is a solid part of the P2 advantage. I might not agree with it but it’s a pretty big one, same for general perception
Miami is no different than most schools with wealthy alums, if the school starts winning they can rocket them forward like Indy. That’s a huge advantage most of the P2 have is media dollars pay for the AD and rev share and the alum money can go towards NIL. Aren’t to many P2 schools without deep alumni pockets. If they hit on a great coach and start winning there is no reason a Purdue or a Wisconsin or even a Rutgers can’t jump up to that level the way Indy did.
Figures the resident B10 homer would misinterpret the remarks on two counts:
1. The misaligned timing of existing deals triggered the optional clause for pooling. That isn’t an indictment of the significant incremental value that full FBS or B12/ACC pooling would provide.
2. And of course if you pooled the top 24 brands to a Super League that would be prohibited by Cruz-Cantwell, the per school value would obviously be maxed out while leaving the rest of FBS SOL. Even CyCrazy can figure that out. Again, that shouldn’t be interpreted as pooling wouldn’t provide significant incremental value as multiple studies have displayed as well as existing NFL/NBA contracts with their multiple buyers with access to both regular season and playoff inventory.
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What IU did isn’t unique to IU, or even to P2. IU’s resources weren’t more than Tech (or several other M2 the last two seasons). A fact that has P2, particularly SEC, upset and trying to change rules
A school with an elite staff, and moderately high cash, that exploits player mobility, can have elite success. The legislation is trying to preserve this.
Luck is always a factor too. With better luck, ASU basically is that in 2024. They certainly were the peers of everyone but OSU that year
