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FriendlySpartan said:
Except they aren’t going to greatly benefit. Your post from the UL AD says this exact thing when reviewing the study in that the P2 already expect their media rights to double next go around without any pooling. It’s right there in the post.

Also most G5 schools have their work cut out just to stay open these days as universities on that level in general are in peril not just their football programs. if they have to cut football then so be it, the programs right now only stay even kinda afloat due to paid games from the P4 and don’t even belong in these conversations
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LOL, the existing members of SEC/B10, B12, ACC and G5 all greatly benefit from pooling

It would be political suicide for a Michigan senator to vote against pooling when all of the B10 and MAC schools in the state would greatly benefit.

There is no rationale to support the voting split that you and others are claiming that would occur.
 
2speedy1 said:
And of course none of that makes what I said untrue. Which is why you ignore it.

I use the dumb emoji on dumb things. Stop repeating the same dumb thing over and over and over if you dont want to get dumbed. No matter how many times you say 7x10 it doesnt make it any more likely to happen. No matter how many times you say the Government is going to fix things, doesnt make it realistic. No matter how many times you say everyone is going to get 2 to 3 times the revenue doesnt make it true.

You insult people on every other post, yet call others immature.
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Gonzo said:
This whole thing is just as much a graveyard for Iowa. I'm just calling out the hypocrisy.
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Calling it a graveyard for Iowa is the dumbest post in this entire thread, even dumber than anything speedy has posted.
 
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cykadelic2 said:
LOL, the existing members of SEC/B10, B12, ACC and G5 all greatly benefit from pooling

It would be political suicide for a Michigan senator to vote against pooling when all of the B10 and MAC schools in the state would greatly benefit.

There is no rationale to support the voting split that you and others are claiming that would occur.
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Politicians have way more to lose pissing off flagships than they do teacher's colleges and directional state schools.

That's not even debatable. You continue to live in fantasy land.
 
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1UNI2ISU said:
Politicians have way more to lose pissing off flagships than they do teacher's colleges and directional state schools.

That's not even debatable. You continue to live in fantasy land.
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Not when the flagships don't have justification to be pissed off and all schools benefit.

That scenario is not even debatable as you continue to live in fantasy land thinking that.
 
1UNI2ISU said:
Politicians have way more to lose pissing off flagships than they do teacher's colleges and directional state schools.

That's not even debatable. You continue to live in fantasy land.
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That guy has ruined this topic for me...going to stop clicking on this thread...I am all for a healthy mature debate...but that guy is going to end up in this thread all by himself because he absolutely has convinced himself he is right (he isn't)! And the name-calling is juvenile behavior! And at times it seems he posts things that even he couldn't believe...which would make him a troll!
 
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cykadelic2 said:
Not when the flagships don't have justification to be pissed off and all schools benefit.

That scenario is not even debatable as you continue to live in fantasy land thinking that.
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So completely changing the entire system and dictating scheduling and league affiliation won't piss off flagships? Lol, okay.

Again, if you want everyone to work together get an anti-trust exemption. Should be 100-0 in the Senate if it's so good for everyone.

I'm already planning my trip to see Northwestern-BYU in a heated rivalry series.
 
1UNI2ISU said:
So completely changing the entire system and dictating scheduling and league affiliation won't piss off flagships? Lol, okay.

Again, if you want everyone to work together get an anti-trust exemption. Should be 100-0 in the Senate if it's so good for everyone.

I'm already planning my trip to see Northwestern-BYU in a heated rivalry series.
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There are 20 legacy SEC/B10 flagships that won't be pissed off.

You must not be aware that the Anti-Trust exemption under SCORE did pass the House last year. But SCORE won't get through the Senate without the SBA Amendment and other stuff. Add SBA to SCORE and it has a good chance to get through both House and Senate.

And BYU-NW would probably be immediately just as heated as NW currently is with existing B10 members. And I stayed at a great hotel near LaVell Edwards Stadium when ISU played in Provo that I can recommend for your trip planning.
 
cykadelic2 said:
Calling it a graveyard for Iowa is the dumbest post in this entire thread, even dumber than anything speedy has posted.
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Didn't you imply that U.S. Reps and Senators in Michigan, Georgia, Ohio, Alabama, Mississippi, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, California, and all the other states that fall within the B1G and SEC footprint would vote in a way that benefits the G5 schools in those states and not the flagship institutions in the B1G and SEC?

I'd argue that's the dumbest post in the history of CF. Lol. Good luck with that one.
 
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Gonzo said:
Didn't you imply that U.S. Reps and Senators in Michigan, Georgia, Ohio, Alabama, Mississippi, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, California, and all the other states that fall within the B1G and SEC footprint would vote in a way that benefits the G5 schools in those states and not the flagship institutions in the B1G and SEC?
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The flagship institutions would benefit along with the G5s so there would be no rational reason for them to vote against SCORE/SAFE.
 
cykadelic2 said:
LOL, the existing members of SEC/B10, B12, ACC and G5 all greatly benefit from pooling

It would be political suicide for a Michigan senator to vote against pooling when all of the B10 and MAC schools in the state would greatly benefit.

There is no rationale to support the voting split that you and others are claiming that would occur.
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Do you realize more people don't care about CFB than those that do? Political suicide, lol
 
cykadelic2 said:
LOL, the existing members of SEC/B10, B12, ACC and G5 all greatly benefit from pooling

It would be political suicide for a Michigan senator to vote against pooling when all of the B10 and MAC schools in the state would greatly benefit.

There is no rationale to support the voting split that you and others are claiming that would occur.
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Your own UL talking point article already states that the P2 will see their media review double next rights negotiation without pooling. That’s the point. Why make a disruptive change or give up anything when you already are going to get the same benefit?
 
FriendlySpartan said:
Your own UL talking point article already states that the P2 will see their media review double next rights negotiation without pooling. That’s the point. Why make a disruptive change or give up anything when you already are going to get the same benefit?
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When both SEC/B10 and the rest of FBS benefit, you vote for it.

Not sure why that isn't clicking with you and some other posters. Obviously some B10 fans are selfish bastards like their Commish and don't want to do what is best for all of FBS like the Louisville report also points out.
 
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Gonzo said:
What color is the sky in your world?
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You really need to read this, Tavern Hawk, as previously requested multiple times. I realize it might too long for you but give it a try:

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FriendlySpartan said:
I’m pretty doubtful of further brand consolidation for a number of reasons but if you view the P2 essentially breaking off then I get your mindset even if I disagree.

I also can’t view that analysis as I have to be logged into x to view that. If you resend a normal link I’ll take a look
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Here you go:

As a Trustee at University of Louisville and current Chair, I am constantly questioned more about the state of affairs of college Athletics than any other aspect of higher education. Yes, it is a big mess and the current chaos is unsustainable. It is made worse by self-interests by...
 
cykadelic2 said:
You really need to read this, Tavern Hawk, as previously requested multiple times. I realize it might too long for you but give it a try:

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Post in thread 'Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)'

FriendlySpartan said:
I’m pretty doubtful of further brand consolidation for a number of reasons but if you view the P2 essentially breaking off then I get your mindset even if I disagree.

I also can’t view that analysis as I have to be logged into x to view that. If you resend a normal link I’ll take a look
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Here you go:

As a Trustee at University of Louisville and current Chair, I am constantly questioned more about the state of affairs of college Athletics than any other aspect of higher education. Yes, it is a big mess and the current chaos is unsustainable. It is made worse by self-interests by...
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Oh I read it. Just a bunch of whiney gobblygook. I agree w Spartan that comparing CFB with the NBA is just nonsense. The whole section where he cries about the claim that decentralization preserves brand is also just dumb. It does.

But as stupid as that is, it's nowhere near as stupid as you thinking members of Congress in SEC and B1G states would vote to lessen the advantages those conferences have over other conferences and G5 schools. I'm still kind of stunned you actually believe that. Lol.
 
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Gonzo said:
That'll be quite a thing when it happens. How much of a heads up do you think the B1G will give the non-legacy schools that they're going to be booted from the conference? A year? A week? Six months? Three years?
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Without disagreeing with your point (at all)...

as a fan, would you PREFER watching:
1) the 7x10 model, and Iowa back in the 'original' Big10 (or say 80% same), with the traditional regional rivalries?

2) the current status quo? with Rutgers, UCLA, Oregon, et al.
 
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