Oregon yes, UW I legit don’t know. The political fallout for the president would be astronomical. They want nothing to do with the south, the blowback could legit crush the move.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I think you're taking Gunner's post a bit too literally. He was summarizing the tiers. I'm sure he would have included another approximately 10 or so schools in that second tier.
After that, you really need to look at individual degree programs but there probably isn't that big of a difference in the overall educational experience between, say, Georgia (49) and Kansas (121).
My opinion is these rankings have little to do with the actual quality of a college or university. Without getting too philosophical, I'd argue the true quality of an institution is measured by the difference it makes in their students' lives and their contribution to our society.
I'd argue that Ivy league schools who only take the cream of the crop high school students, and who pride themselves on the percentage of applicants they deny, actually make little impact on their students and the country as a whole.
It's institutions like Iowa State that take normal high school graduates, exercise their already strong work ethic, provide them with numerous leadership opportunities, and help them identify and pursue their passions, that really positively impact students and our society. It's the Iowa States (not the Harvards) that make our country's higher ed system the best in the world.
The individual program makes a difference but also the individual student makes even more of a difference in how much they get out of the situation. Some schools open more doors than others and some have more of a wow factor or name brand that people respond to you differently as well. The fact that some schools simply open way more doors than others doesn’t mean that’s right but it’s reality.
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I only have direct experiential knowledge with b-schools, but in that area, Georgia is a muuuch better school than KU. The reality is that the Big12 sucks when it comes to academic cred, it is what it is.
need to understand these schools rather stay as they would be rather be associated with pac 12 schools over big 12 schools but they may not have a choice
That’s a good point, but from a general public perspective is Indiana that much better than ASU? If the conference roles were reversed would Indiana be considered an academic asset.
I guess there’s no way to measure that except your rankings, so I stand corrected
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But there’s no USC and UCLA anymore. That’s 1/2 of the schools that make up the PAC “mystique” academically and athletically.
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25 isn't good but could probably be sold as close enough to not have to blow everything up.
Gotta remember that University Presidents are typically risk averse, and there's a myriad of other things for them to spend their time worrying about.
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By giving SDSU and SMU partial shares of the Pac12 media rights and 12 team CFP monies, that could subsidize the existing P10 schools by $3-$5M.
The real keys will be:
- Linear Visibility of Apple's partner/licensee.
- Do any 4 corner schools come to the conclusion the Pac12 will cease in 6 years. So 2024 is the right time to help build up the Big12's brand prior to the Big12's next TV deal.
I guess my PAC holy grail of academic + athletic achievement would be OU, WA, USC, UCLA. Historically maybe Stanford is above those but right now those 4 schools have the top mixes in the conference imo.
Are the broadcasting partners going to pay $25 million for each of San Diego St and SMU or is adding them going to dilute the value of the offer?
If the media partners think those schools are worth a full share number that is.
We may never know. The announced amount will be the total. aka $270M annually for 5 years.
I bet the Pac12 announces SDSU & SMU adds at time new deal is announced or maybe even beforehand.
But obviously conference schools will divide up the total $ with the newbies getting maybe a half share.
Even on that one I think it's mostly just Cal/Stanford who are an afterthought in all this anyway because they have no actual sports watching fan base.
We're seeing that real eyeballs are starting to matter and they just don't have them. The few that do have wandering eyes for Big Ten and Big 12.
Pac adding SMU after these pompous self righteous two decades would have me lmao.
They might as well tattoo "INFERIOR TO THE BIG 12" on their forehead.
SDSU would just be more of what they've always had. Nice weather, big media market, pacific time zone, few actual fans, similar academic profile to some of their other schools.
