Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Stormin]

Taking Arizona schools and CU and UT. They are good fits geographically. And strategically. This drives a stake in the PAC 12. They are now the PAC 6. Oregon and Washington. Already applied to Big Ten. They want a place at the big table. Stanford and Cal as well. Big 12 will take them though. But they will always be looking to jump. Wash State and Oregon State maybe Big West. They are SOL.

 

[cyfan92]

Agreed. It’s not like USC & UCLA have been dominating that conference. They just go back to being the PAC 10 minus a couple Prima Donnas.

16 really feels like the limit to me. How can you be a conference when you’re not even playing half the other members on a regular basis?

I love a 16 team Big 12 with Utah, AZ schools, and CO.

New additions for ISU

Cincy - Drivable, in CMC's recruiting background
UH - Direct flight from DSM, Houston recruiting, basketball final four
UCF - Games in Florida, recruiting, direct flights from DSM
BYU - Direct flights to SLC from DSM, National brand, will be a great villan in the conference

CU - Former conference rival
UT - great FB, decent MBB, Locks down UT and SLC, direct flights
AZ - Basketball powerhouse, Great weather,
ASU - PHX recruiting and direct flights,

There are also A TON of Arizona and ASU fans living in So Cal that care A LOT about their teams

 

[Rods79]

Sooo…the Big10 said “no”.

Yep…and a clear stated “we aren’t ok sitting still for 10 years”

 

[CloneIce]

Not to be a Debbie Downer here, but when has the Big 12 ever taken a team from a Power 5 conference? Most likely the PAC or even the ACC (and as a result new TV contracts) are getting ready to poach from the B12 again, sadly. I hope I’m wrong or if not I hope we are one of the teams getting poached.

Agree. I think we should move aggressively to merge with any and all PAC schools and form a mega conference with them. That would be a really fun conference to watch and mostly all historical strong P5 schools.

 

[isuno1fan]

Big 12 can't wait for the next next domino to fall. We have to make the move. Be the aggressor.

Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona schools should be announced at or before Media Days in Dallas. You then have equal membership to the B1G and SEC. Two more than the ACC (1 if you count ND).

Then you wait to see if Oregon and Washington are interested to go to 18. 20 it's wide open.

Prediction....nothing more happens until next off season.

 

[isucy86]

CU is limited. ASU maybe, have inlaws there and they don't follow them much. I agree that their value in the big 12 is more than PAC 12 due to match ups and time slots.

Also those schools have a lot of transplants and snow birds from Big12 states.

There are a lot of Iowans and Kansans that live in Arizona. There are a lot of Iowans, Kansans and Texas Sun Birds in Colorado.

 

[ISUTex]

#NebraskasSuperBowl

Probably is for both of them. I sometimes wish Bane from Batman would implode the field/stadium when they play in that huge national rivalry game.

 

[JP4CY]

Sooo…the Big10 said “no”.

Yeah I'm taking that as the B1G said no.

And lets be honest, say they were to get invited and accepted to the B12. That doesn't mean the B1G wouldn't poach them out of the B12 in 10 years.

 

[isuno1fan]

Its been reported that the B10 told them "no" last night, and they are not planning any further expansion.

Look if the invite is out there for both teams, they are going to go to the B10, more money, better academics and the rest of it, but what if the reports are correct and the B10 turned them down? Do they try to reform the P12 by adding and are CU, Utah and the rest of the league going to be willing to sit around knowing that if Oregan and Washington get an B10 invite they will be gone?

They can afford to wait. There is no reason for them to scramble when there will always be a seat in the B12 worse case.

 

[BCClone]

Yeah I'm taking that as the B1G said no.

And lets be honest, say they were to get invited and accepted to the B12. That doesn't mean the B1G wouldn't poach them out of the B12 in 10 years.

Why we do a 7 year deal and then hit before the big 10 and lock them down.

 

[clonedude]

Sooo…the Big10 said “no”.

This is hilarious. Washington is disappointed in USC and UCLA.... when Washington also tried to leave the conference last night?

 

[theshadow]

Can we get a link to something substantive on this idea that teams had to notify the Pac last night of their intentions regarding grant of rights to the league? Because I haven't seen it reported anywhere besides being discussed on this board, and if teams were leaving en masse it surely would have hit social media by now.

It's a question of when exactly in 2024 is the Pac-12's current deal over.

If the deal ends on 6/30/24, as many believe, then last night would have been the close of the 2-year notice window.

If the deal ends on 8/1/24, as some suggest (based on USC AD's statement and the 8/2/24 B1G join date), then there would still be month before the 2-year notice window closes.

 

[BCClone]

They can afford to wait. There is no reason for them to scramble when there will always be a seat in the B12 worse case.

Oregon and Washington can wait. The rest really can't. We won't take all of them, IMO. So if stanford and another says hey, lets roll. We could see what the big two decide and then only really want two more either way.

 

[cyfan92]

Looking at last year TV ratings... ASU and AZ don't bring much in FB... Utah, Oregon, and Washington are where the eyeballs are

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Looking at last year TV ratings... ASU and AZ don't bring much in FB... Utah, Oregon, and Washington are where the eyeballs are

Arizona was awful last year and Utah had a historically good season. Can’t judge these things based on one season

 

[JP4CY]

Why we do a 7 year deal and then hit before the big 10 and lock them down.

You would think so. I'd love to have Washington and Oregon in the B12.

 

[Remo Gaggi]

I was in Boulder a few weeks and you would barely even know that CU is there and we were only a few miles from the campus.

Everybody is stoned on the hippie lettuce.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Agree. I think we should move aggressively to merge with any and all PAC schools and form a mega conference with them. That would be a really fun conference to watch and mostly all historical strong P5 schools.

Big 12 After Dark! Love me some late late game on Saturdays.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I was in Boulder a few weeks and you would barely even know that CU is there and we were only a few miles from the campus.

You go to Boulder to live in Boulder. You may attend CU but that’s secondary.

 

[HFCS]

This is FOX versus ESPN for Tier 1 rights.

B1G versus $EC.
Pac-12 and Big 12 merge as Fox wants to put that up against the ACC and ESPN

The Bay schools are irrelevant to streamers but cash cows for linear providers. B1G seems to prefer markets and brands over just MBB and FB power. Cal and Stanford give the B1G total control of the most populated state for BTN.

Even then I don’t think cable providers in CA will pay top dollar, especially not Bay Area and rural areas. It’s not like Midwest states 12 years ago when the could hold markets hostage and people demanded their channel.

I live in LA and have no idea if BTN is even available or already standard or what companies even provide cable tv. I know when I’m at my favorite bar to watch sports there is a cable channel that mostly has Lakers and Dodgers. I never see any tvs set to pac12 network.

I think LA is probably the least cable tv place in the USA. It’s all about movies and music here.