The 10 team conference was the perfect size.Superconferences suuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
How the hell do you crown a “champion” when each team only plays about half the teams in the “conference”? How the hell do you determine the two “best” teams for your championship game when the schedules aren’t balanced?
We already see how it doesn’t work with 14 teams … how do we think it’s going to work with 20, or 22, or 24?
Seriously, if the B1G and SEC expand to 40 or 48 programs, nobody else in the country should ever schedule a game with one of their schools again, in any sport. Let them have their “super” playground and they can have their own playoffs and crown their own champions, just the two of them. If the response is, “what about the media money we lose by not playing them?” … how much media money is going to be left once they’re getting $100, $150, $175 million per team for their “super” conferences? You know, play em non-con all you want, they’re never gonna let you be part of their club. Best to leave them in their own playground and make something work outside of that.
And this is why nobody is asking me to take over as commissioner of anything.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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The writers who are saying the Big 12 should grab the Pac 12 leftovers are the same ones who said the AAC should grab the Big 12 leftovers. So I'm not sure what to believe. Seems like the Pac 12 with Oregon is strong enough to stay viable, and they may try to poach some Big 12 schools.
It would be big for schools like Oregon st and Wazzu if Washington gets passed over by the big 10. They'd be the anchor that would make that group worth it to the big 12. Those two on their own might not be enough unless things get desperate. They aren't much different than a lot of big 12 schools, geography and timing are just going to make it different for them.
I think Oregon is the next domino to fall, no way they aren't at the big table. It feels like one the pac 12s bigger brands might get left out though. Good news for the leftovers.
I think Oregon is the next domino to fall, no way they aren't at the big table. It feels like one the pac 12s bigger brands might get left out though. Good news for the leftovers.
This would presume the Pac-12 goes poof like....
Berkeley, Oregon, Southern Cal, UCLA, and Washington to the Big Ten.
Big 12 scoops up Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah.
Poor Oregon State and Washington State end up in something like the Mountain West.
Big 12 has a nice 16 to it now -- maybe can stay there or grab one or two more eastern teams (and I would imagine Memphis is probably next in line if so) and just call that good enough for now.
Even if USC/UCLA is all that happens (it won't be), this feels like the most wild round of this yet. I mean this is way out there with no "we've always felt more like a Pac school" type thing Colorado said. This is way out there and new.
I could absolutely see Mizzou jump to the Big Ten: it’s more academically prestigious, it’s a better geographic fit for recruiting, its easier to win in, and I think it’s easy to miss this but after today the B1G is gonna make a pretty decent chunk more money than the SEC. B1G alumni bases are massive.
On the B1G side, Mizzou is at least as attractive as Washington I would think.
If it DOES happen, the SEC will have to get a 16th which almost certainly would come from the Big 12 (unless it’s poaching from the west coast too).
On the B1G side, Mizzou is at least as attractive as Washington I would think.
If it DOES happen, the SEC will have to get a 16th which almost certainly would come from the Big 12 (unless it’s poaching from the west coast too).
ND ain't joining the SEC. Not saying they're joining the B1G, but they're not joining the SEC. Their snob alumni and donors would never let them join a conference that they likely consider an academic cesspool. If the ACC wants to survive they need to bend even further over and give ND what it wants to come in and be the anchor, that's the only way they'll be able to start digging out of the revenue hole they're going to be in. Even that may not work though.
I think that's exactly how it goes if Big Ten takes six.
If Big Ten takes 2 they probably stick together like Big 12 did. If Big Ten takes four....probably break apart or join full or partial with Big 12.
Or 6 and be a 20 team conf, with 2, 10 team divisions, round robin. 9 game conf season with a conf championship. Seams like this is what they are trying to get to, so they control the money and the media deals, even if its just basically making a division of what was a conference.
The only question is how many spots they want to leave open for teams like North Carolina etc when the SEC blows up the ACC.
Maybe 2 of them are warmer to the idea than others, and this is those 2 telling the other 2, 'we're going, jump in or get left out'
I can think of a great Midwestern school in a different TV market to backfill their spot in the SEC if they go…
I still think that Stanford and Berkeley could decide to say F it and go the Ivy route. They could still be dominant in Olympic sports and also get to get into the club with Harvard, Yale and Princeton without having to pretend they care about football.
They covet some ACC schools, that could be their downfall. The past expansions always left plenty of alphas out there. They are thinner now. It may be hard to wait
Why? The ACC is would be just fine with Notre Dame coming in. They would probably get a fat NBC deal too. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Notre Dame would join the SEC before the Big 10. The hate is real.
I just think if it’s this far along, that conversation has been had.
I think it’s more likely the Big 10 didn’t ask them
Ala, SWC/Big 8. Some got left out then too, this could happen if there was a merger. This might get spicy
I think you nailed it. Plus $50 million in OK probably goes about as far as $100 million in New York.
