I never confirmed, but someone stated PK is worth $40B on his own. That would fund any of these projects into perpetuity.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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If the B12 does take teams and the Pac is basically a lame duck, you'd think that would increase B12 negotiation leverage substantially. Less inventory on the market to compete against.
"The ex-Fox Sports Network president, Bob Thompson, placed Oregon’s media-rights value at $30 million and Stanford’s at $45 million when I pressed him. That may be all that would normally matter to the Big Ten. However, I think Oregon’s national brand and Phil Knight’s clout give the Ducks the edge. If the Big Ten takes Oregon, I would expect there to be some sort of subsidy or waiting period (See: Maryland) before the Ducks are allowed to take a full conference media share."
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/20...ar-values-emerges-in-realignment-discussions/
How the **** is UCLA worth the 100 million to get into the Big10 but Oregon only worth 30 million?
Whether Thompson is accurate or being genuine is another question. But he did not say the PAC average was 30 million
UCLA was supposedly subsidized by USC.
But I agree the numbers don't add up- at least if the BIG is making this about money.
If the BIG has USC, then the added value by UCLA is not that much larger than Oregon. Or larger at all imo. They already have the So Cal market, and the national pull better for Oregon. So even if at $80 million, if UCLA is $30, that means USC would need to be $130. Which would make them so much higher than any other PAc school, that the PAC is getting absolutely crushed without them. And those are BIG valuations, and go down if in PAC, and even more down in a USC-less PAC.
Los Angeles vs Eugene plus a massive nationwide alumni base coming out of UCLA that Oregon can't come anywhere close to.
I get that but I still don't believe that UCLA is worth $100 million and Oregon is only worth $30 million. It has been repeated on here how football is all that matters and Oregon football is light years better and more relevant than UCLA. I don't have numbers but I bet Oregon viewership over the last 10-15 years is better than UCLA. I'm sure attendance crushes UCLA.
If Oregon is only worth $30 million then no way the Big12 sees $50 million per team
A key thing to remember is that Thompson retired from Fox in 2009. The market factors have changed dramatically since then and I doubt this guy has been keeping up in his retirement. He has a a nice credential but it is so old that his opinion really isn't relevant.
Good to know thanks! Those numbers just made no sense to me with some of the other reported numbers.
Projected future value of Oregon with Phil Knight no longer alive. He is 84 now. Oregon could decline substantially without Knight money and in an inferior conference that does not include the presence of power schools in LA.
I am guessing Phil Knight will continue to fund Oregon athletics long after he is dead
Right. Not like that money vanishes when he does. Definitely will have some sort of trust set up
Pretty clear Oregon perceives the Cyclones as a threat. They’re going straight at Iowa State’s strength is their PR campaign.
Pretty sure the basis for both USC and UCLA was $73M each, which is the estimated payout in the BIG the first year of the new media rights. The $100M only comes in to play around 2029 or 2030, when all teams make the $100M. Oregon and Washington fell far short of the $73M baseline and were then not part of the USC/UCLA package.
"Thompson estimated that those two Pac-12 universities, along with the Oregon and Washington television markets, would only generate an additional $60 million in combined additional revenues."
Canzano: Pac-12 gut punch comes with a cost
Ex-Fox Sports Network executive weighs in; could Oregon-Washington be next for Big Ten?
www.johncanzano.com
Yeah, a lot of what you say there makes sense when you look at his numbers and data. They all play out like a decade old way of thinking and the way things were thought of during the round of realignment 10-15 years ago.
Phil Knight’s money will not buy Oregon’s place in the Big Ten. Phil Knight’s money is not going to the Big Ten. It will only go to Oregon. Phil Knight’s money did not save the PAC 12. It can definitely fund their Athletic Department as an Independent.
What are you arguing? I never said any of that. You said Oregon would decline without his money and I just stated his money isn't going away.
