This could be the very smart move from your commish spinning off basketball rights from the rest. Right now just about everything is bundled so football is the entire package. If this spin off happened during the last media deal it would be interesting to see how the positioning played out
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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They might do that next round anyway depending upon the circumstances and landscape. Who in the Big12 would/might be appealing to the B1G/SEC in the next few years? KU...maybe (but doubt it).
I'm not sure any remaining schools are additive to the B1G/SEC at this point. I'm not even convinced Clemson and FSU are.
If ISU is out, I'm out. There are millions of alums who can wake up and suddenly their school is out, or every school in their state/region is out. That's some leverage.
There's absolutely no way Sankey and your commissioner's dream is going to be long term more popular than the previous setup where we had about 70 major conference teams and 130 FBS teams.
It's eliminating college football's biggest/only advantage over the NFL so a few programs can make more short term and it will shrink the sport vs if they had let it be or realigned in a more inclusive way. Some day college football is going to be an afterthought (because all of college sports will be) and even Ohio State will have been kicked in the nuts by the greed of the Big Ten.
Just read the story where Sankey says it's impossible for more than 2 humans to have a meeting, that tells you all you need to know that these guys are pure evil. You don't make up ridiculous lies like that if you aren't planning some seriously illegal collusion type of moves.
Not with clemsons trajectory, also not sure who really wants to get into the FSU business for a variety of reasons
Isn’t that the whole logic of why a super league will never happen despite what many on here think?
UNC/UVA would add things without overlapping much, FSU to Big Ten or when Texas tries to join Big Ten some day.
It's getting thin. They've already determined they want no good basketball so you can't look at Duke/Uconn or even consider that UNC/UVA is anything but UNC/UVA football.
These conferences not caring about basketball is why the Big 12 is now a super conference with 50% of the top ten, it was really close to 60% of the top ten had we pulled the trigger on UConn. If either cared about basketball they could have added now geographically contiguous Arizona and got a top ten basketball program in a new valuable market.
Watching business in the USA I think it makes it more likely it will happen.
Capitalism is generally about a small few people making the most money short term, it's very rare they choose what's best for profits 40-50 years from now. They choose what makes them them most money next quarter or at best the next year or two. I can see the Big Ten and SEC exploding this thing so they make loads of cash, the fact that it's now smaller minor league football cratering the whole thing, and we become more like European sports where the pro teams funnel kids into developmental teams. Maybe that's for the best anyway.
Can’t argue with the business side point. I could point out that universities and atheistic depts aren’t businesses but I know how well that statement would go down lol
The Big East gets ~$7M per school for basketball only and keep in mind they have all of the huge East Coast markets.
I get where Yormark is coming from, especially when you consider basketball's global growth, but I really struggle to think that the Big 12 is going to be much further ahead money wise when you strip that from the football rights.
I'm a HUGE college basketball guy so I absolutely hope he's right that the market is ready to make college basketball a standalone property but I am skeptical.
The SEC cares more and more about basketball every year. That's why they have 9 teams ranked to the Big XII's 6. They're going to be legitimate competition in the sport before long.
The part about separating basketball that intrigues me is getting a media partner that isn't eager to cover football to jump into college sports more full time... my pipe dream is getting Big XII basketball on CBS/TNT/TBS while football remains split between Fox/Disney.
I agree that it won’t put the Big12 farther ahead money wise if all the conferences did the same thing but if the other conferences didn’t split it could still be additive.
The big east has markets but no eyeballs unfortunately. A lot of legendary names with no success for a decade plus with small schools doesn’t bode very well. It’s essentially just UConn and the tag alongs at this point but UConn is a monster for both mens and women’s so it’s more then enough
I know a Big Ten basketball fan didn't just type this ;-)
To be fair at least your team has the quarter century, the rest of the Big Ten is getting into half century or not in any of our lives territory. Villanova as the dominant program was incredibly recent by comparison.
See that’s where they don’t care: long term. You hit on a later post this regarding capitalism. This is how to make the most money the fastest for the media companies, commissioners, and current AD’s/Presidents.
Who cares what it looks like in 40 years they’ll barely be alive for it.
You can always trust a small powerful few to maximize profits for that small powerful few for a short while.
Anything else is naive. That's just how it always is.
You can't even trust the small powerful few to maximize their own profits long term, let alone for everyone.
Changing the March madness payouts instead of most of the money going to the NCAA could move the needle a little.
Legitimate as in true competition or Media Propaganda/rankings? Why I ask, as BIG 12 fans, we've seen it for years and has never been more prevalent than today in football.
