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i'm a big road and map nerd but this one issue always perplexed me. hopefully one of you transportation guys can answer this - why do interstates 35 and 80 merge and 235 goes into downtown des moines? Why not have 80 go around and 35 go through, or vice-versa, and not call the downtown loop "235". There is no at-grade terminus and it doesn't go around a city like most other even numbered loops. so why?!
 
Hey Nickels...have you ever had fresh coconut...like freshly shaven from the coconut? I bet that'd be fun to try out while you're in Hawaii. Like a nice welcome to the islands.
 
Somehow I ended up in contact with poison ivy and now I have several very itchy rashes on my arms.

I want to itch them. So. Bad.

This is why I didn't invite you :jimlad:

Also, I must be ugly as **** because I can't even give the other ticket away at this point. Most of them wanna go to a freaking Happy Hour or said they would feel bad because not everyone can go. Too much group think going on right now.
 
i'm a big road and map nerd but this one issue always perplexed me. hopefully one of you transportation guys can answer this - why do interstates 35 and 80 merge and 235 goes into downtown des moines? Why not have 80 go around and 35 go through, or vice-versa, and not call the downtown loop "235". There is no at-grade terminus and it doesn't go around a city like most other even numbered loops. so why?!

Because it is a spur and because the engineers said so.

380 is technically a spur

In Wichita 135 and 235 are spurs of 35.
 
i'm a big road and map nerd but this one issue always perplexed me. hopefully one of you transportation guys can answer this - why do interstates 35 and 80 merge and 235 goes into downtown des moines? Why not have 80 go around and 35 go through, or vice-versa, and not call the downtown loop "235". There is no at-grade terminus and it doesn't go around a city like most other even numbered loops. so why?!

Isn't 235 a spur, not a loop?
 
So they way we do expenses slightly changed, but became a huge pain in the ***.

Before, we just put our trip for the day, where and what it was for, and number of miles.

Now we have to do starting and ending mileage. Ok. That's fine. People might be stealing, and a lot of companies do that.

Nope, we also have to provide a Google Map print off for EVERY trip. And if we make the same trip twice in a one month period we had to has a separate Google Map print off for each trip. Ridiculous. What would have been a 7 page expense report turned in to 26 pages.
 
So they way we do expenses slightly changed, but became a huge pain in the ***.

Before, we just put our trip for the day, where and what it was for, and number of miles.

Now we have to do starting and ending mileage. Ok. That's fine. People might be stealing, and a lot of companies do that.

Nope, we also have to provide a Google Map print off for EVERY trip. And if we make the same trip twice in a one month period we had to has a separate Google Map print off for each trip. Ridiculous. What would have been a 7 page expense report turned in to 26 pages.

Why a print out? That just seems like a waste.
 
Because it's not Microsoft. Hell, we just updated all of our computers to Windows 7 instead of XP this last year.

At my first IT job I worked at a local health department and we had GPS on all the mosquito trucks. It would just track and then upload when they drove it back to the garage. It was pretty cost effective, saved money over printouts. That was 5 years ago too.
 
At my first IT job I worked at a local health department and we had GPS on all the mosquito trucks. It would just track and then upload when they drove it back to the garage. It was pretty cost effective, saved money over printouts. That was 5 years ago too.


See, but some companies are dumb....because buying new computers comes out of the 'capital' budget, but hiring extra people to cover the same job because the people doing the job are doing all of these stupid things are not as efficient...well, that's just a hidden cost. And then, even if you do cost it out, it's still rejected because they don't want to hurt the capital expenditures budget...even though they're hurting the overall company budget worse by not doing it.

(not necessarily a direct experience story there, but I know enough of how some companies I've worked at look at things...yeesh...)
 
At my first IT job I worked at a local health department and we had GPS on all the mosquito trucks. It would just track and then upload when they drove it back to the garage. It was pretty cost effective, saved money over printouts. That was 5 years ago too.

Pretty sure there might be legalities to making it mandatory to putting a gps on a personal vehicle, since we don't have company cars.
 
Because it is a spur and because the engineers said so.

380 is technically a spur

In Wichita 135 and 235 are spurs of 35.

Isn't 235 a spur, not a loop?

no. spurs are one direction offshoots of main interstates. they always start with an odd number like 380 or 394. loops go around a city or region, connect on both ends with interstates, and start with even numbers. The lower numbered routes (for spurs and loops) start on the south side of an area and get higher as you go north. an example is interstate 94 in minnesota. 494 is the south loop, 694 is the north loop, and 394 in the spur to the western suburbs.

like i said, i'm pretty knowledgeable about the interstate system but still dont understand why 235 was created.
 
Allright, just to prove that I'm still a big softie...today, little00 had a picnic lunch planned for daycare, along with water day, and his swimming lessons besides that, and Mrs. 00 works on Thursday. So, I had to take him to lessons, then leave his suit on because he was headed right to water day at daycare, but send dry clothes and a 2nd towel with...and I had to pack a lunch for him (NO PEANUTS). Gotta admit, I had a little awww moment packing his first little brown bag lunch for him (well, I think he's had it before, but Mrs. packed it). Cheese sandwich, orange sections, applesauce, granola bar, juice pouch, and some oyster cracker/craisin/chocolate chip mix.
 
no. spurs are one direction offshoots of main interstates. they always start with an odd number like 380 or 394. loops go around a city or region, connect on both ends with interstates, and start with even numbers. The lower numbered routes (for spurs and loops) start on the south side of an area and get higher as you go north. an example is interstate 94 in minnesota. 494 is the south loop, 694 is the north loop, and 394 in the spur to the western suburbs.

like i said, i'm pretty knowledgeable about the interstate system but still dont understand why 235 was created.

The auxiliary Interstate Highways (also called three-digit Interstate Highways) are a supplemental subset of the freeways of the Interstate Highway System of the United States. Similar to the mainline Interstate Highways, these highways also meet all Interstate Highway Standards, they receive the same percentage of federal funding (90%), and they comply with other federal standards. These shorter auxiliary routes branch off of main routes and are numbered based on the number of the parent route, such that all I-x95 routes are supplemental routes for I-95. Auxiliary routes are generally classified as spur routes (which connect to the parent route at one end), bypasses (which connect to the parent route at both ends), or beltways, which form a complete circle intersecting the parent route at two locations. There are some routes which connect to the parent route at one end, but connect to another route at the other end; some states treat these as spurs while others treat these as bypasses. While some exceptions do exist, generally spur routes are numbered with an odd hundreds digit (such as I-395), while bypasses and beltways are numbered with an even hundreds digit (such as I-695). Because longer interstates may have many such supplemental routes, the numbers may repeat in each state along their route, but they will not repeat within a state.

According to this, it's probably a "bypass"? I always thought it was a spur, but they only join at one end, and the bypass joins at both ends.

Other than that, I got nothin'. :)
 
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