That surprises me. I've been pretty impressed with 80% of the stuff I've had from them. Better than TG's just making the same 6 beers (although they've gotten those beers to be consistent finally) and charging $100/bottle for BA stouts 3x per year, anyhow. I wouldn't put them ahead of Pulpit, but I see a lot of like-mindedness in their philosophies and products. Barrel Theory in St. Paul is similar in my mind too.