Prohm Fired

[Die4Cy]

Pollard's hires have been pretty air tight in the past. It's not like he's blowing smoke on that point.

As far as flat out saying ISU does not have donors do buyouts, it would be a dumb thing to lie about because the severance payout to Prohm will show up on the books at some point, and he knows that.

 

[Go2Guy]

I by no means have any sources, but Jamie saying this doesn't mean its not actually true. Its called controlling the narrative.

folks go ahead and bash me for being naive, but I watched JP's video message and I'll take Pollard at his word and believe no donor money was involved.

 

[whatthewhat]

folks go ahead and bash me for being naive, but I watched JP's video message and I'll take Pollard at his word and believe no donor money was involved.

I don't think that it is naive to believe JP. But JP does want to control how this entire process is viewed. Some information may come out in the future that wasn't known, but JP is going to set the narrative for how the process is viewed in its current state.

 

[Urbandale2013]

Pollard's hires have been pretty air tight in the past. It's not like he's blowing smoke on that point.

As far as flat out saying ISU does not have donors do buyouts, it would be a dumb thing to lie about because the severance payout to Prohm will show up on the books at some point, and he knows that.

I believe him for the most part on not believing stuff out there. That said some stuff is always going to leak. Also I don't think people understand how money can be moved around. If donors did pony up for the buyout it isn't just going to be a check from them to Prohm. It also isn't going to be just the exact amount of the buyout. I guarantee there was at least some sort of donor involvement in paying the buyout. To what extent and via what methods only Pollard knows.

 

[DSM4Cy]

I believe him for the most part on not believing stuff out there. That said some stuff is always going to leak. Also I don't think people understand how money can be moved around. If donors did pony up for the buyout it isn't just going to be a check from them to Prohm. It also isn't going to be just the exact amount of the buyout. I guarantee there was at least some sort of donor involvement in paying the buyout. To what extent and via what methods only Pollard knows.

"Creative financing." You have to wonder what that means.

 

[WhoISthis]

I can tell on here who has held positions of leadership in real life where they have to control a narrative vs. those who haven't. What Jamie said was clearly trying to control a narrative.. very, very obvious. He doesn't like the news that leaked. Some might be true and some might be false. I doubt it's all false. With many people in a department plus donors, it's inevitable that things leak.

And don't get me wrong. If I were in Jamie's shoes, I would have said exactly what he said. This is common 101 management/PR stuff.

It’s amazing how many people slurp up Jamie’s bs

 

[Rabbuk]

"Creative financing." You have to wonder what that means.

Next coach has to sell magazines and chocolates to pay his own salary

 

[Isualum13]

"Creative financing." You have to wonder what that means.

It probably means scrapping the men's basketball program and adding a baseball program.

 

[cycloneworld]

I can tell on here who has held positions of leadership in real life where they have to control a narrative vs. those who haven't. What Jamie said was clearly trying to control a narrative.. very, very obvious. He doesn't like the news that leaked. Some might be true and some might be false. I doubt it's all false. With many people in a department plus donors, it's inevitable that things leak.

And don't get me wrong. If I were in Jamie's shoes, I would have said exactly what he said. This is common 101 management/PR stuff.

Strongly disagree. "Controlling a narrative" does not equal outright lying about things. Pollard was very clear this is going to be a financial hit to the AD but made the decision anyway. Again, why would he outright lie about this? Makes no sense.

Spin is one thing. Lying is completely different. And assuming there is a paper trail with everything, he's not going to blatantly lie about donors picking up the tab.

Occum's Razor - the simplest solution is that posters here were wrong about donors stepping up to full cover buyouts.

 

[Bestaluckcy]

I think the major weakness in the JP using a major donor then lying about is it means he would have to give up some control as to who we would hire. History has shown Jaimie doesn’t like to share these hiring decisions even with our university president. He likes to keep control.

 

[allfourcy]

It’s amazing how many people slurp up Jamie’s bs

I don't look at it as bs at all. Calculated, smart wording (like creative financing). I'd go out on a limb and say he's done more for his university than most other AD's that have much better resources. He loves the Cyclones and I can get behind a guy like that.

 

[jmb]

Jaime has whatever he needs

I have heard the same thing. The quote was "money will NOT be an issue."

 

[WhoISthis]

I don't look at it as bs at all. Calculated, smart wording (like creative financing). I'd go out on a limb and say he's done more for his university than most other AD's that have much better resources. He loves the Cyclones and I can get behind a guy like that.

“If you haven’t heard it from me it’s not true” is BS.

 

[isucy86]

He is having great success where he is with all athletes returning next year and a chance to coach his son. Looks like he could ride that for another year as the opportunity to make a P6 jump will still be around

Devries might be very interested in moving from Drake after this year. He has been at Drake 3 years, so it's not like he's pulling a Medved.

Also Tucker hasn't enrolled yet at Drake. So it might make sense for Darren to take a P5 job and Tucker start out academically at his school for 4 years.

Drake is pretty loaded, so they should be competitive to make the NCAA's next year. But no guarantees in life. If Darren can sign a $12-15M contract at a new school, hard to pass up that opportunity.

 

[CloneJD]

A lot of posters seem upset the info on the premium board shared with them was flat out wrong.

 

[CloniesForLife]

A lot of posters seem upset the info on the premium board shared with them was flat out wrong.

On this premium board?

 

[jcisuclones]

John Groce is reported to be interviewing today. A plane landed in Ames from Akron, OH this morning.

No way would Iowa State pay to fly him in on a Dassault Falcon.. that's an almost $40-50k flight. Plane was originally supposed to land in Boone, as well.

 

[CycloneDaddy]

On this premium board?

Pollard doesnt leak so no idea why people believe anything on a message board.

 

[Rabbuk]

Pollard doesnt leak so no idea why people believe anything on a message board.

Because they pay for it

 

[Urbandale2013]

Strongly disagree. "Controlling a narrative" does not equal outright lying about things. Pollard was very clear this is going to be a financial hit to the AD but made the decision anyway. Again, why would he outright lie about this? Makes no sense.

Spin is one thing. Lying is completely different. And assuming there is a paper trail with everything, he's not going to blatantly lie about donors picking up the tab.

Occum's Razor - the simplest solution is that posters here were wrong about donors stepping up to full cover buyouts.

Again I think it’s in the middle. I don’t think one donor wrote a $5 million check. That said I would be shocked if there wasn’t some donor involvement.