Prohm Fired

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Will the details of the contract termination / buyout be released? Or do just assume all terms and payments were according to the contract ? I'm curious to know how much was paid from the AD budget + donors?
 

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Will the details of the contract termination / buyout be released? Or do just assume all terms and payments were according to the contract ? I'm curious to know how much was paid from the AD budget + donors?
It may depend on what Steve can land.
 

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I by no means have any sources, but Jamie saying this doesn't mean its not actually true. Its called controlling the narrative.
Classic authoritarian move- discredit any report or narrative that’s not yours. Pretty standard for ADs, although we eat it up more than most
 

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Classic authoritarian move- discredit any report or narrative that’s not yours. Pretty standard for ADs, although we eat it up more than most

Well JP can pull the wool over my eyes. Most wealthy people I know would rather donate to something like building a building. Spend their money and be able to see something as the result of it. As opposed to donating for the termination of someone they consider as basically a decent person.
 
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Well JP can pull the wool over my eyes. Most wealthy people I know would rather donate to something like building a building. Spend their money and be able to see something as the result of it. As opposed to donating for the termination of someone they consider as basically a decent person.
Most donors of athletics I know don’t view that staffing decisions should be made on whether they consider that person basically a decent person. Avoiding 0-18 and program embarrassment is as motivating as naming rights. They would give Jamie flack for having to come to them to undo his mistakes rather than spend on infrastructure.
 
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I by no means have any sources, but Jamie saying this doesn't mean its not actually true. Its called controlling the narrative.

There also is no incentive to lie about that. Indiana came right out and said it. In fact, it would be BETTER for optics to say it’s donor funded instead of saying “funds are right but we are still paying $5 mil to buyout the coach”. Pollard has been pretty transparent and I see now reason he’d like about this.
 

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So in your opinion, exactly what 'narrative' is he controlling?

That we are not a school where donors throw money at the AD to make things happen. I'm not sure that's an attractive thing when you're looking for a new Coach. Plus, it spares Prohm's feelings as well.
 

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There also is no incentive to lie about that. Indiana came right out and said it. In fact, it would be BETTER for optics to say it’s donor funded instead of saying “funds are right but we are still paying $5 mil to buyout the coach”. Pollard has been pretty transparent and I see now reason he’d like about this.
There is. I think Pollard dislikes the idea that donors can pull the strings for something like this. He’d rather keep the idea that he ultimately makes the decision. I don’t think it’s really that big of a deal in a situation like this where the move was obvious but I can see where it would be good to fend off some of the more reactionary aspects.
 

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Its a huge deal. If a donor is buying out the coach then a donor or small handful of people are pulling the strings and that means your Cyclone Club donations don't matter. So why make them.
 

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Its a huge deal. If a donor is buying out the coach then a donor or small handful of people are pulling the strings and that means your Cyclone Club donations don't matter. So why make them.

Hot take: People who donate millions have more influence and access than people who donate hundreds. Does anyone NOT think that is the case?

Also large donors don't mean small donations don't matter. In fact, I'd bet ISU is towards the bottom of all P6 teams when it comes to very large donors.
 
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Hot take: People who donate millions have more influence and access than people who donate hundreds. Does anyone NOT think that is the case?

Also large donors don't mean small donations don't matter. In fact, I'd bet ISU is towards the bottom of all P6 teams when it comes to very large donors.
If one or two guys are buying out the coach, then one or two guys are running the show. There are obvious ramifications to that for Pollard, the University, etc...
 
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And what evidence do you have to believe otherwise? Honest question. Or, is this a sinister opinion of the department?
I'm not making a distinction whether what he said is good or bad.

But when he is saying he is the only person to believe, that is pretty tight control of the process.
 

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I can tell on here who has held positions of leadership in real life where they have to control a narrative vs. those who haven't. What Jamie said was clearly trying to control a narrative.. very, very obvious. He doesn't like the news that leaked. Some might be true and some might be false. I doubt it's all false. With many people in a department plus donors, it's inevitable that things leak.

And don't get me wrong. If I were in Jamie's shoes, I would have said exactly what he said. This is common 101 management/PR stuff.
 

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It may depend on what Steve can land.

I just watched JP's 10-min video and he emphatically stated he doesn't have donors pay for buyouts because it sends the wrong message.
He went on to explain the situation with our decrease in revenue due to covid and how the new coach will have to understand how, "creative" it will be to meet the budget expenses in the near future.