Preseason Top 25
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Marble could get his own shot on a team of guys who struggle w that, basabe was one of their better rebounders too. Compare that to ISU where Niang was already the go to 1 on 1 scorer and BDJ is great at that too.
Last year was the first year that Iowa got so much as one vote in the preseason AP poll in more than a decade. They haven't been in the preseason Top 25 in football since 2011. Not exactly a pattern of voters "in love" with them and consistently overranking them.
I forgot about Basabe.
Iowa's got a much slimmer path to an improved season than we do. They need someone from their existing stable to step up and become what Marble was, because they're sure as heck not bringing anyone in. If they can, and Fran sticks with them rather than spreading the minutes around, they might be decent. I'd be worried if I were an Iowa fan, but also hopeful that a few guys might see improved seasons. I'll take our position any day, though.
But hey, enough about Iowa, back on topic...
What are some teams that people will be shocked to see left in/out of the preseason Top 25?
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Hoiberg hasn't had a season where his team has lost LESS than 7 conference games in a season. Will that never change or is he doomed to never improve that? Every season is different. Look at the Big Ten for this year. Michigan isn't as good as they have been. Ohio State is down. Michigan State is down. Nebraska may seriously be the 2nd best team in the conference. Let that sink in. If Iowa does nothing more than stay level they will pick up a few more wins in conference this year.
He probably meant local media, but you're right, there's no conspiracy theory. People worry about the school to the east a little too much.
The whole thing with people putting Dayton in now, presumably because they won a couple tournament games, and I bet voters will too because they eat that stuff up.
My thoughts are: Hoiberg uses the season to build his team to peak in March. However he has ran into two big injuries the past two years (Babb and Niang) during the tourney, both teams had good chances of the final four without the injuries.
Losing games throughout the season helps build the team up to understand how to over come adversity and builds chemistry and hunger. Going through the Big 12, 16-2 maybe builds up some false sense of dominance??? KU has had a lot of great seasons, but seem to run out of steam in March and disappoints??
With what Fred had 4 years ago when he started and what has translated into, I'll take whatever strategy he thinks works. Maybe he will turn ISU into a power that can win 30 games during the regular season and still play well in March, time will only tell.
You are correct sir, 12-6 b12 in '12. Also 12-6 in '13 if we're talking about real competition.
This is only noticed in Iowa. And preseason rankings are mostly worthless efforts to attract readers, nothing else.
You do know that Bill Self is 11-4 in the tournament since Holberg arrived, right? And that they played for the national championship just two years ago?
I will call Bill Self and tell him he needs to lose more regular season games to better prepare for the tourney. Good grief, ISU wins one more game than Kansas in the tourney and suddenly the model of success has changed. I think you have officially reached maximum Kool-Aid intoxication.
KU didn't have any key injuries last year. :mask:
KU is the Big 12's bell cow and one B12 Tourney Championship by ISU doesn't change that. You aren't helping yourself with your post even though you are arguing with a common enemy.
No, he's right. I was off by one. That insignificant fact doesn't change the point which is that past records mean nothing when discussing the future. For people that ask me to stop making a big deal over nothing, you sure are making a big deal over nothing. Arguing over putting Iowa at the ***** end of my meaningless preseason ranking could not be more of a pointless endeavor.
Pre-season rankings in basketball are pointless so this thread should be much shorter. If you don't like the conversation I can give you a key to the door.
