Pacquiao v. Mayweather

I spent a good chunk of the day watching old boxing clips on YouTube. Watching iron mike blast guys was really fun. His punches look like he's swinging a sledge hammer and he goes for the kill. Those guys last night were no where close to that. Boxing needs another mike tyson.

I just got done watching a Roy Jones Jr montage, forgot how cocky that guy was.
 
I just got done watching a Roy Jones Jr montage, forgot how cocky that guy was.

yes he was. 1:50 mark for the KO
[video=youtube;v3T-J5s3KIw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3T-J5s3KIw[/video]
I remember watching this fight when it was live, and hating Jones, but being unable to deny how friggin amazing he was. That kind of spectacle is good for the sport.
 
I spent a good chunk of the day watching old boxing clips on YouTube. Watching iron mike blast guys was really fun. His punches look like he's swinging a sledge hammer and he goes for the kill. Those guys last night were no where close to that. Boxing needs another mike tyson.
The closest guys right now that will always guarantee you an action fight/will not dance around avoiding punches/will not refuse to fight anyone put in front of them are: Maidana, Provodnikov, Mathysse, Golovkin, Danny Garcia, Guerrero, Cotto, and Kovalev. Another guy with a great balance of skill, yet not a total defensive guy, is Andre Ward. If any of those guys is on TV, you can bet your *** I'm watching.

The heavyweight division has really suffered from a lack of speed on recent years. With "super" heavyweights taking over, the game has changed to favor bigger, yet slower heavyweights. Marciano, Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, McCall, Lewis, etc. were speedsters compared to the Klitschkos and Valuevs of this past decade.
 
I spent a good chunk of the day watching old boxing clips on YouTube. Watching iron mike blast guys was really fun. His punches look like he's swinging a sledge hammer and he goes for the kill. Those guys last night were no where close to that. Boxing needs another mike tyson.
Tyson also boxed at 220. Floyd and Manny are 146
 
The closest guys right now that will always guarantee you an action fight/will not dance around avoiding punches/will not refuse to fight anyone put in front of them are: Maidana, Provodnikov, Mathysse, Golovkin, Danny Garcia, Guerrero, Cotto, and Kovalev. Another guy with a great balance of skill, yet not a total defensive guy, is Andre Ward. If any of those guys is on TV, you can bet your *** I'm watching.

The heavyweight division has really suffered from a lack of speed on recent years. With "super" heavyweights taking over, the game has changed to favor bigger, yet slower heavyweights. Marciano, Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, McCall, Lewis, etc. were speedsters compared to the Klitschkos and Valuevs of this past decade.

Larry Holmes is probably the most underrated heavyweight champion of the 20th century. Even if not because of his speed, but his fundamentals. The guy had the most devastating jab in the sport. He was victimized by the lack of anyone with a name to beat, unlike the guys in the early- mid-70s. But in my opinion any list of the top 5 heavies of all time that doesn't include Larry Holmes isn't a list worth reading.
 
Some people hated the fight but I thought it was decent. I wanted Pac to win but I don't see how anyone in their right mind could say the fight was even close.

Mayweather threw 435 punches and landed 148.
Pac threw 429 and landed 81.

That's not close.
 
So, these guys basically pulled a multi-million dollar heist.
 
Some people hated the fight but I thought it was decent. I wanted Pac to win but I don't see how anyone in their right mind could say the fight was even close.

Mayweather threw 435 punches and landed 148.
Pac threw 429 and landed 81.

That's not close.

Well, I've seen a couple people claim Manny did more damage with what he landed. There was one instance where it looked like he rocked Floyd a little but Floyd landed more solid shots on Manny than the other way around. Manny had opportunities too and I think that's where he lost the fight. He'd get May in the corner or on the ropes and he couldn't do anything with it.
 
Well, I've seen a couple people claim Manny did more damage with what he landed. There was one instance where it looked like he rocked Floyd a little but Floyd landed more solid shots on Manny than the other way around. Manny had opportunities too and I think that's where he lost the fight. He'd get May in the corner or on the ropes and he couldn't do anything with it.

I agree completely. Manny really had a chance to do some damage in the 4th(?) round where Manny landed a couple and Mayweather looked stunned. But Manny couldn't capitalize.
 
He did. You can't have a big fight without an audience. The audience doesn't want to see skill and precision. They want to see two guys flailing their arms until someone makes contact because everything has to be given to them now. So, since people are this way, they don't like boxing. Therefor, there is no interest in boxing and you can't build guys up because no one is there to talk about them. That's fine but we shouldn't act like boxing is the problem. It has changed maybe a little but it's still a sport that's far more than knockouts.

Sorry, the argument that people somehow no longer have the attention span is bs. And it goes beyond the product in the ring. The fact this fight even took this long is a big part of the reason the sport is dying. The fight couldn't have been worse if this had happened long ago when these guys were in their prime As it should have. Putting the debate of whether this particular match was entertaining aside, organizationally the sport is a mess and thats its biggest problem.
 
Sorry, the argument that people somehow no longer have the attention span is bs. And it goes beyond the product in the ring. The fact this fight even took this long is a big part of the reason the sport is dying. The fight couldn't have been worse if this had happened long ago when these guys were in their prime As it should have. Putting the debate of whether this particular match was entertaining aside, organizationally the sport is a mess and thats its biggest problem.

It's not bs. There are other options that are more "action packed" and people would rather watch those events. Boxing is in a similar spot to baseball, IMO.
 
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I feel bad for anyone that paid for that fight on Saturday that didn't know what they were getting themselves into. That's how all of Floyds fights go, nobody can touch him and the outcome had nothing to do with Manny's age. Manny wouldn't have touched him 5 years ago either. Floyd is just that good.

For the casual fans, it sucks you picked that fight to try to get invested in but don't give up. If you have HBO, set your DVR for the fights the next two weeks. Canelo Alvaraz vs. James Kirkland will be the slobberknocker you crave on Saturday and then the next week GGG fights again. He's destroying the middleweight division and has 19 KO's in a row.

Protip: Make sure you listen to the post fight interview with GGG, he sounds EXACTLY like Borat.
 
I feel bad for anyone that paid for that fight on Saturday that didn't know what they were getting themselves into. That's how all of Floyds fights go, nobody can touch him and the outcome had nothing to do with Manny's age. Manny wouldn't have touched him 5 years ago either. Floyd is just that good.

For the casual fans, it sucks you picked that fight to try to get invested in but don't give up. If you have HBO, set your DVR for the fights the next two weeks. Canelo Alvaraz vs. James Kirkland will be the slobberknocker you crave on Saturday and then the next week GGG fights again. He's destroying the middleweight division and has 19 KO's in a row.

Protip: Make sure you listen to the post fight interview with GGG, he sounds EXACTLY like Borat.

thanks for the tip, I loved boxing as a little kid, but it was a great era for the sport where the best fighters like Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran were also lots of fun to watch, and obviously there was the rise and fall of Tyson.
 
Boxing needs a heavyweight American on top to be relevant again to the fair weather fans. And a rival for him. I followed boxing from Tysons reign till Lennox Lewis retired basically. Haven't really been any great heavyweights since and the Klitchkos aren't going to get anyone excited for a fight

100% right. Unfortunately all of the potential great American heavyweights are playing safety/linebacker/TE in the NFL.