Pretty sure Heartland College Sports' staff meetings are just Pete Mundo bouncing ideas in front of multiple mirrors.
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But weight is only one factor. In the NFL there is a premium on speed and the guys on the draft rankings are freaks from a height/weight/speed combination. Only a very small percentage of college players make it to the NFL.
Sure Iowa State had good sized LB's, but not NFL LB speed at the same size. With Jimmy Rogers and 4-2 his approach looks to prioritize speed over size. But we'll also have 4 DL to occupy/disrupt the opposing OL.
Different approaches, but both work for each coaches system.
Tackling also. Our backers were slow and poor tacklers.
Is anyone else getting a massive Uber commercial blitz that takes over their scfreen, constantly?
I'll be curious how well guys like Bacon, Ebel, etc. play at their next stops. Do they follow Campbell or maybe look to play in more traditional 4-3 or even 4-2 defenses.
IMO the 3-3 front put a lot of stress on the LB's. Having to be uber aggressive to fill run gaps, but also get back on pass plays. There were running around with their heads cut off. Whereas, the ISU DB's were playing in controlled chaos.
They’ll follow Campbell if they are on the Ped St poach li$t. How much they play is another question.
most of the negative stuff floating around is from iowa fans or iowa trolls wanting to make ISU look bad and this is their hayday.. and for the most part its working (coopers tweet), shows how gullible the gen pop is unfortunately..
Bacon is more middle backer in a 4-3. His hole filling and edge setting are weak. He can tackle, usually from behind because of poor anticipation. Ebel wanted to throw shoulders and not wrap up so you would see backs either bounce or spin off and and keep going.
Many people praised their improvement over the last 2-3 games, part of it was a drop in the opponent quality. The middle backer in our D always appears better because of sheer tackle volume and having citrus playing infront of rhem.
Obviously weight is only one of many factors that determine if a LB is NFL caliber. I was just correcting the poster who misstated the weight of NFL LBs.
This convo was triggered by a post speculating that Rogers ran off our LB corps. I don’t believe he did that, for multiple reasons.
Mine is Acura. Entirely unnecessary, we already have two.
CW has a sense of humor? He should roll that out once in a while!
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100% agree
as big as a c*ck as he can be - his sense of humor is relates to mine. he runs laps around CW on the humor side of things.
IMO Rogers probably did run off existing roster LB's for a few reasons:
- Rogers looking for more speed than guys on current roster.
- Rogers not willing to pay what players wanted.
- With a 4-2 defense, just don't need the same # of LB's on the roster vs. 3-3 defense.
- Rogers wanting to develop/pay younger players. Guys who can grow with his program vs. guys who start in 2026 and then graduate.
- Rogers plans on bringing in LB's who Rogers feels are an upgrade based on his system/approach.
Bacon and Ebel were gone from the jump from what several here heard. Can't speak to the others and not saying it wouldn't have happened eventually. But not sure Rogers "ran these guys off" in the true sense of that term.
Does anyone have a good explanation on how Penn state is going to 'Spend" 30 million dollars. The entire athletic department is 20 million cap. The extra 10-15 million assuming some other sports are supported under the cap needs to be real NIL deals (deals out side the university) that are approved by a audit committee. When does this Audit committee review and approve? is it ahead of time where they can then promise this ? Are they deals set up separately that will be reviewed at a later date with risk not being approved?
Agree that Bacon and Ebel were gone regardless likely. From a system perspective, it's pretty easy to see why Goodwin and Willich are staying and guys like Brezina and Klosterman haven't. Can't be slow and play in this system, need to be fast and cover some territory.
So when ISU wins next season their tears will be twice as delicious
Hummel was an under appreciated 6' 1'" 220 linebacker who would have fit into the new system. Lateral speed and wrestling instincts. HE ADDED 10 to 15 lbs in pros. Gerry Vaughn was 5' 11" 230 to 235 with great lateral speed and instincts. Unique body. LOW center of gravity but smart and heady and minimal mistakes.Underappreciated. SHOULD HAVE probably played at 223 to 225. Marcel Spears would have been a flat out STAR in the new system. A GREAT linebacker. ATHLETIC. 6'1" 215 lbs.
