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What I meant was referring to every school that loses a coach, that goes on to play in a bowl etc. Not every school ever that loses a coach plays in one. I can see how I wrote it might confuse you.

That being said, I have compared it to those schools Like wazzu many times, just some on here are so dense, like you, that cant understand that, so I tried to come up with a way you might understand, but obviously you cant. But tell me how a coach and a player, both getting paid to do a job, is different than any other job, other than they apparently can refuse to do their job and quit, to turn their back on their so called loyalty, and still get paid and still have fans like you, kiss their ass for it.

That being said 99% of all schools that ever lost a coach and qualified for a bowl, still went on to play in said bowl regardless of losing that coach. But you go ahead and put the likes of KSU on a pedestal to try to emulate, if that works for you, I sure as hell am not going to.

How many of our players, announced they were leaving when they voted? Sure they have now, weeks after they made up their mind to quit on ISU. Its almost like the Wazzu players havent announced yet because they were busy preparing and working for their bowl. Its almost like keeping players active and working is a good way to keep them involved with the program, which may work out to them deciding to stay, rather than letting them quit, with the only thing for them to do is contemplate leaving.

As far as the rest of your BS, I seem to have an awful lot of likes and agreements on the subject. I at least have come up with actual real tangible reasons and evidence of schools etc that have made it work. You have just come up with hypotheticals like what if there were no coaches, what if there were no players, what if there were no DBs. But its different at ISU than it has ever been anywhere else that ever lost coach, its just so hard, you cant compare ISU to any other school in this situation because no one has ever had it as bad as ISU....Bla bla bla.:rolleyes: Well I can do the same, what if there were plenty to play? What if we had plenty of players to play, what if we had plenty of coaches to coach, what if, what if?

Keep in mind I havent resorted in calling anyone names because I didnt like their argument, because I didnt agree with them. You have done so mulitiple times, which does not make your argument any better, as far as I am concerned the minute you resort to insults, and name calling, you lost. But you do you, its not like I would ever take moral lessons from you as someone who accepts and celebrates quitters, this is precisely the issue with people today, people are fine with quitting at the first sign of adversity, people all want a participation trophy.

That all being said, feel free to put me on ignore, if you dont like it. I cant do it for you. ✌️

Nothing you wrote confused me - not all programs that lose a coach & qualify for a bowl end up going - that has already been pointed out to you in this thread.

I ain't reading the rest of all that, happy for you, though. Or sad that happened.
 
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Nothing you wrote confused me - not all programs that lose a coach & qualify for a bowl end up going - that has already been pointed out to you in this thread.

I ain't reading the rest of all that, happy for you, though. Or sad that happened.
One more time.

I meant to compare to every team that loses a coach THAT goes on to STILL play in a bowl. Places like Wazzu, LSU, PSU. NOT places Like KSU.... That lost a coach and refused to play in a bowl, which in the history of the sport are few and very far between.

And as I said at the end of the post you are unable to read, once you started with the insults, you lost the argument. Please add me to your ignore list, I cant do that for you!

Peace
 
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One more time.

I meant to compare to every team that loses a coach THAT goes on to STILL play in a bowl. Places like Wazzu, LSU, PSU. NOT places Like KSU.... That lost a coach and refused to play in a bowl, which in the history of the sport are few and very far between.

And as I said at the end of the post you are unable to read, once you started with the insults, you lost the argument. Please add me to your ignore list, I cant do that for you!

Peace

I didn't lose anything bud, can't help people that can't comprehend the english language.

Merry Christmas!
 
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What do all the other teams do that decide to play in a bowl after losing a coach for one reason or another?

Hell KSUs new coach is still coaching at A&M weeks after taking the job at KSU.

NONE of the coaches outside Campbell had "signed on" anywhere else at the time of the vote.

This is a very common occurrence, it happens every year, all the time, and teams still make it work.

How do you force teams and coaches to play? Well in many cases its not "forcing" because many still actually want to. Let me ask you this? How does your boss "force" you to do your damn job?

Why would Campbell be on the sidelines? Do you even watch College football? Was Kiffin on the sidelines at Ol Miss? Is Franklin on the sidelines at PSU? Was Rogers on the sideline at Wazzu bowl? NO, many teams lost coaches, and no none of those teams had the old coach on the sidelines.

My god some of you act like this doesnt happen all over the place every year, and somehow almost every other school figures out how to make it work.

For christ sake the exact thing happened to Wazzu in the exact same timeframe, and somehow they managed to show up and finish the season. And SEVERAL, if not most, of those coaches that coached in that game, already have other jobs in other places, including coming to ISU with Rogers. Many of those players plan to enter the portal too, yet still showed up and played.

Its insane you continue to make these excuses when all you have to do is look at Wazzu and see every single excuse is complete BS.

But but but, what if the team comes down with the bubonic plague and the coaches dog ***** on the field, and the punter gets a hangnail, how would they manage to force them to play. :rolleyes:

1. KSU's coach will NOT be gutting aTm of it's current players and future recruiting class because he's moving on, unlike Campbell. Sure some players may follow him, but I'm sure aTm will be keeping the ones they want.

2. It's been documented several times that the players did NOT want to go to a bowl game. They voted NO even after hearing that Heacock and several other coaches were willing to stay through the bowl game.

3. These players literally found out their coach was leaving a few days before bowl selection. Imagine the emotions these players were and are still going through not fully understanding their futures. And then force them to make an immediate decision of whether to compete in one more meaningless game so a few fans can go to Phoenix or Dallas or Houston or freaking Memphis?
 
Obviously, including yourself.

You can stick your Merry Christmas up your ass!
Damn Why are you people this angry at each to the point of using such language? Back in the day I would get blocked for merely disagreeing with the heavyweights/regulars in this forum. Anyways lets disagree but still treat each other with respect and love. We are all Cyclones (Assumming). Happy days ahead. Merry Christmas to you all.
 
KSU's coach will NOT be gutting aTm of it's current players and future recruiting class because he's moving on, unlike Campbell. Sure some players may follow him, but I'm sure aTm will be keeping the ones they want.
Lol, he's the OC there not the head coach. Why would anyone team with the same head coach be "gutted" just when a coordinator leaves? I dont remember us being gutted when Scheelhause left.
 
Lol, he's the OC there not the head coach. Why would anyone team with the same head coach be "gutted" just when a coordinator leaves? I dont remember us being gutted when Scheelhause left.
That is my point exactly. The post I responded to stated that Klein staying on and coaching at aTm before moving onto KSU was similar to ISU's is false!!
 
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That is my point exactly. The post I responded to stated that Klein staying on and coaching at aTm before moving onto KSU was similar to ISU's is false!!
Klein shouldn't have anything to do with this.

The real comparison needs to be ISU vs Wazzu. Exact same situations yet somehow they were able to be enthusiastic enough to dominate their game yesterday after suffering the catastrophic loss of their coach.
 
Damn Why are you people this angry at each to the point of using such language? Back in the day I would get blocked for merely disagreeing with the heavyweights/regulars in this forum. Anyways lets disagree but still treat each other with respect and love. We are all Cyclones (Assumming). Happy days ahead. Merry Christmas to you all.
yeah, sorry, getting insulted, tends to bring it out in me. I mean when someone resorts to name calling, put downs and insults, they no longer deserve a cordial response.

But yes, I get your point. Maybe having the flu for the last week has made me extra salty.
 
That is my point exactly. The post I responded to stated that Klein staying on and coaching at aTm before moving onto KSU was similar to ISU's is false!!
That was not the point, people were saying we had no one to coach, that none of the assistants wanted to coach, which was totally false, that all of the assistants had other jobs and places to go etc the moment Campbell announced he was leaving, and had secured such jobs when the vote happened. Even though that still wouldnt have mattered. Many of the Wazzu coaches had places to go already secured, they still finished, like Klein he has a place to go, yet finished. etc.

The point was that Klein as an assistant at A&M going to become a HC, stayed on as an assistant at a&m until they finished their season. He clearly has a job lined up, a bigger job, but stayed to finish at a&m. Just like the assistants at ISU could/would have done.

Just like assistants at ISU whether they had a place to go or not could have and would have stayed on to finish at ISU.
 
IMO. Pure speculation. Heacock expresses earlier in the season that he is looking to retire. Deon Broonfield is promoted to be the eventual successor at DC. Then the injuries. The 4 game skid. Offense struggles. Maybe Rocco should be replaced. Is Campbell out of gas? Then we win 3 in a row. Some wins not pretty as we struggle. But 8-4 and winning conference record. Good amount of talent returning.

Meanwhile, Penn State is a disaster. They strike out on their first half dozen or so choices for HC. They reach out to Campbell. Campbell knows Heacock is retiring. He can leave Iowa State after a successful season. Move closer to home. Make more money. Have more resources. And an easier path to the CFP every year. Logically you can’t blame Campbell for leaving. It is fair to criticize Campbell for the way he left. Ghosting donors and coaches and players as he privately negotiated his getaway from Ames. Maybe should have done things differently. But IMO Campbell knew he might not get another opportunity like this. And he didn’t want to be talked out of it.

I am disappointed Campbelll isn’t our Bill Snyder. I won’t boo Campbell. Appreciate everything he did. But the departure leaves me feeling jilted and a bit used. Definitely not ready to build statues to Campbell at this time. My loyalties now lie with Coach Jimmy Rogers. That Washington State team was wonderful to watch. And Coach Jimmy Rogers left the staff needed to coach that team to victory. Helluva job by them. The Cougars played with passion. Team play. That’s what I want. Iowa State needs the overachievers and hungry players that fuel our culture. I am enthused for those who stay and build. And to those who leave. Thanks for being Cyclones. Good luck in your careers. Hope it works out for you.
 

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