***Official portal tracker thread***

[twincyties]

Not this again. So you think a coach who recruited Iowa heavily up until last year going to WSU all of a sudden will forget his contacts and where schools are?

You are correct. I also think winning the recruiting battle in state is more of an emotional/bragging rights thing for fans than it is about product on the field. We could do just as well having solid relationships in different regions across the country.

 

[3TrueFans]

Read my post.

MC did well here…but he had a lot more help than people realize.

How many coaches do it all on their own?

 

[BadBoi]

I’m not quite ready to jump to this conclusion yet, but speculation about this will understandably ramp up after Jan 2 if we don’t land some good talent in the portal.

It’s not surprise a lot of our best players - particularly the upper classmen - are following CMC to Penn State. I think unfair to Rogers to somehow make that a reflection on him.

Where this gets interesting is with someone like Manske who - by most accounts here - was above Moberly in the depth charts. If that is indeed the case he is - at least at the moment - our starting QB next year.

I'm told Manske is going to Penn St.

 

[xr4ticlone]

How many coaches do it all on their own?

None…but until the early 90’s there was zero help. It’s ramped up from there.

 

[xr4ticlone]

I'm told Manske is going to Penn St.

That’s my assumption as well.

Also makes the HS commit pedo got from us a little interesting

 

[BadBoi]

That’s my assumption as well.

Also makes the HS commit pedo got from us a little interesting

Teams typically recruit at least 1 QB a year. I don't think there's anything to it.

 

[twincyties]

Teams typically recruit at least 1 QB a year. I don't think there's anything to it.

I don’t disagree but guys of this caliber aren’t looking to ride the bench too long either.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

That’s my assumption as well.

Also makes the HS commit pedo got from us a little interesting

So because it was bad here 30 years ago, Campbell gets reduced credit for what he did?

I guess I'm struggling with the logic here...

 

[FarminCy]

Also from Ben. His comments have a lot of weight and wisdom.

He’s 100 percent correct. Campbell only cares about Campbell and his loyal circle.

My son knows two of the players transferring. One of them told my son that apparently Campbells staff is telling the ones they won’t bring to PSU they should be looking as it’s no longer the same ISU anymore.

I’ve posted in another thread about how the shine of Campbell went away after I learned about his fragile ego and many NDAs attached to former coaches. It would appear he ego is so fragile that he can’t handle a successful Iowa State without him if the above is true.

Now that he’s gone I hope people see that he really is no different than any other self absorbed college coach that is only in it for themselves.

 

[BadBoi]

I don’t disagree but guys of this caliber aren’t looking to ride the bench too long either.

If a lightly recruited incoming freshman QB is scaring him then he's not going to be the guy we thought he was regardless.

 

[twincyties]

He’s 100 percent correct. Campbell only cares about Campbell and his loyal circle.

My son knows two of the players transferring. One of them told my son that apparently Campbells staff is telling the ones they won’t bring to PSU they should be looking as it’s no longer the same ISU anymore.

I’ve posted in another thread about how the shine of Campbell went away after I learned about his fragile ego and many NDAs attached to former coaches. It would appear he ego is so fragile that he can’t handle a successful Iowa State without him if the above is true.

Now that he’s gone I hope people see that he really is no different than any other self absorbed college coach that is only in it for themselves.

It would be really disappointing if this is the case, but it doesn’t sound completely unrealistic. The number of players entering the portal and presumably not going to Penn State lends further support of this theory - whether accurate or not.

So many of the “build him a statue” crowd will never accept this to be true even if proven to be by those in the know.

I’ve seen this so many times with “leaders” in business. The way they choose to prove their worth is to let it fall apart when they’re not there. They don’t understand the true definition of leadership is to build it in a way that it runs without you there. Not hard to see an athletics equivalent here being a possibility

 

[Marcelason78]

……My son knows two of the players transferring. One of them told my son that apparently Campbells staff is telling the ones they won’t bring to PSU they should be looking as it’s no longer the same ISU anymore….

I would hope Heacock is still going into the office letting guys know not to listen to this type of egotistical crap.

 

[twincyties]

If a lightly recruited incoming freshman QB is scaring him then he's not going to be the guy we thought he was regardless.

I agree - I was speaking more about the incoming freshman than Manske

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Wait, a College Football coach is a paranoid, narcissist, control freak?!?!?!

And here I am without any pearls to clutch...

 

[BadBoi]

He’s 100 percent correct. Campbell only cares about Campbell and his loyal circle.

My son knows two of the players transferring. One of them told my son that apparently Campbells staff is telling the ones they won’t bring to PSU they should be looking as it’s no longer the same ISU anymore.

I’ve posted in another thread about how the shine of Campbell went away after I learned about his fragile ego and many NDAs attached to former coaches. It would appear he ego is so fragile that he can’t handle a successful Iowa State without him if the above is true.

Now that he’s gone I hope people see that he really is no different than any other self absorbed college coach that is only in it for themselves.

I don't know of any NDAs or him telling players to jump ship. If that is all true then ya go ahead and burn him in effigy.
Until then, the fanbase needs to understand that he took the program to unprecedented heights for a decade. And single handedly held the program together during the NIL era.

 

[Bubba Hubba]

Is this too optimistic?

* On average, teams lose about 20 of 85 scholarship players each year when they've used up all eligibility. Thus, there's ~20 losses. (I didn't look up the actual number.)

* We have 29 players that have announced their intent to transfer.

* It's still early, thus one might assume another 20 players will enter the portal.

That leaves us with ~70 losses out of 85 scholarship players.

Then, on the bright side, we rebuild around those 15, plus 1-2 players who entered the portal but decide to stay, plus ~10 of our previously committed recruits who decide to stick with ISU, plus ~5 walk-ons who earn scholarships.

That gets us to 32, which means that the staff will need approximately 53 transfers and/or new HS commits.

Again, too optimistic?

 

[FarminCy]

I don't know of any NDAs or him telling players to jump ship. If that is all true then ya go ahead and burn him in effigy.
Until then, the fanbase needs to understand that he took the program to unprecedented heights for a decade. And single handedly held the program together during the NIL era.

I was told straight from the horses mouth of one of the NDAs. Obviously couldn’t tell me full details but this person is one of a number of former staff that won’t talk to Campbell ever again.

 

[cyclo120]

He’s 100 percent correct. Campbell only cares about Campbell and his loyal circle.

My son knows two of the players transferring. One of them told my son that apparently Campbells staff is telling the ones they won’t bring to PSU they should be looking as it’s no longer the same ISU anymore.

I’ve posted in another thread about how the shine of Campbell went away after I learned about his fragile ego and many NDAs attached to former coaches. It would appear he ego is so fragile that he can’t handle a successful Iowa State without him if the above is true.

Now that he’s gone I hope people see that he really is no different than any other self absorbed college coach that is only in it for themselves.

I am not going to downplay what Campbell did here, it was as good as we have ever seen. That being said, I am tired of acting like he was Nick Saban. Maybe Jimmy Rogers wouldn't go 7-6 with the most talented roster in school history, or lose to a horrible Colorado and ASU team with a RB at QB last year. The point is its going to be very different with basically all new people but doesn't mean the results can't be as good or better. In todays climate that can happen sooner rather than later as well. Nothing is guaranteed but this period of time where we can only hear about people leaving gives a very misleading look at the state of the program.

 

[BadBoi]

I was told straight from the horses mouth of one of the NDAs. Obviously couldn’t tell me full details but this person is one of a number of former staff that won’t talk to Campbell ever again.

Eh, NDAs aren't that uncommon in this profession. Neither are disgruntled former staff members. Not all that surprising.

 

[cyatheart]

You're trolling.
It is true nobody expected this many players to leave tho.

I don't know, this is what I expected. Think a lot of people did.