***Official Olympics Discussion***

The physical demands of Gymnastics can't compare to wrestling, swimming and water polo. or 12- rounds of boxing.

And Judges can be bought and influenced; just recall the French Olympic judges a couple winter Olympics ago.
 
The physical demands of Gymnastics can't compare to wrestling, swimming and water polo. or 12- rounds of boxing.

And Judges can be bought and influenced; just recall the French Olympic judges a couple winter Olympics ago.

I've played all those sports BRAH. All of them are hard and very physically demanding, but gymnastics was by far the most physically demanding. If you haven't actually been competitive in it, you have absolutely no room to speak about it. One of the least demanding was baseball (because I wasn't a pitcher), but easily one of the most fun to play.

Water Polo can be scary on another note. My dad used to play it competitively in college and told me some scary **** before some rules changed. Thank god..
 
You were a gymnast, swimmer, boxer and wrestler? Ok.


I had ADHD when I was younger up the ***, so my parents basically got me to enroll in pretty much any sport that interested me as an avenue to get rid of all my energy. I grew up pretty much doing that.

I tried boxing, but didn't like the contact of it and I sucked. I tried wrestling, but phased it out later closer to high school for baseball. My dad was a collegiate swimmer and water polo player, and my mom swam a lot so I grew up doing that quite a bit as he half pushed me into it. Same with gymnastics, which I quit for a handful of years and then started picking it back up afterwards. As well as basketball, football, and baseball. Baseball and basketball were my favorites though. Fun *** sports.
 
The physical demands of Gymnastics can't compare to wrestling, swimming and water polo. or 12- rounds of boxing.

Uhhh I would say it compares VERY well. Gymnastics takes a LOT of strength, not to mention balance, coordination, skill, etc.
 
Uhhh I would say it compares VERY well. Gymnastics takes a LOT of strength, not to mention balance, coordination, skill, etc.

yeah the only thing I would give is that it doesn't require the same cardio and aerobic strength.
 
Uhhh I would say it compares VERY well. Gymnastics takes a LOT of strength, not to mention balance, coordination, skill, etc.

Much more physical endurance and conditioning.

I'm not talking about skill, balance and coordination. Heck. Golf has more of those three chacteristics than gymnastics, but no one would say golf is more physically demanding over gym.
 
Much more physical endurance and conditioning.

I'm not talking about skill, balance and coordination. Heck. Golf has more of those three chacteristics than gymnastics, but no one would say golf is more physically demanding over gym.

It's pretty much everything. You think this has nothing to do with pure strength and just skill?

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I don't care to debate what is more physically demanding; I'm going back to my original premise that if the outcome is determined by the subjective opinion of another human, then I don't feel it's a true sport.

Get rid of syncho diving, rhythmic gymnastics and equestrian et al events....
 
I don't care to debate what is more physically demanding; I'm going back to my original premise that if the outcome is determined by the subjective opinion of another human, then I don't feel it's a true sport.

Get rid of syncho diving, rhythmic gymnastics and equestrian et al events....

Things are best experienced when you actually do them. You can talk all you want about things, but until you actually do it on a legit level and not "oh wow i did a backflip", no room to talk. You remind me of my friend, who by the way is in very good condition, very strong, and a boxer. He told me he didn't think it was that physically demanding. I got him up on rings and told him to just hold himself up there straight arm. That's all. He began violently shaking, swore for a good 5 seconds straight and dropped straight to the ground. Now he knows better.

In any case, besides all this, of course it's more subjective than other things because you have judges. However, other sports have "judges." I.e. Refs, umpires, etc. Same damn thing. Someone like yourself looks at these sports, and makes up **** about how things must be "scored" like "ohhhh that looks good, 9!" when it's not even how it works. There's a very objective scoring to it, and again there's multiple judges to average out someone from accidentally missing something. Nobody judges you on that crap like in an NBA dunk contest. You do a D skill? Great, 0.4 points. You do a G skill? GREAT, 0.7 points. You fall off the horse? 1 point off. You take a big step on your dismount? sucks, 0.5 points off. That's how it works, not a ******* dunk contest scoring.

Gymnastics scoring is no more subjective than boxing scoring.

I can't speak for corruption, but it's in pretty much every sport, not just gymnastics and figure skating. We've seen it in soccer, baseball, basketball, football, boxing, etc.
The only sport IMO that's closest to being objective is golf.
 
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I don't care to debate what is more physically demanding; I'm going back to my original premise that if the outcome is determined by the subjective opinion of another human, then I don't feel it's a true sport.

Get rid of syncho diving, rhythmic gymnastics and equestrian et al events....

except it's been shown that you just don't properly understand the judging of such events.

I'm sure someone who has no familiarity with basketball or football would wonder at the subjectivity of holding, fouling, or even the judgement used in baseball - with no replay system used.

I watched the diving for 30 minutes tonight and even I could pick up on who was doing better each time. To tenths of a point? no, but better/worse than those who went before or after them? Yes.
 
surprise, surprise, a bronco fan winning a gold medal.