***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***
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Meh. It's more likely the bigxii shrinks by two teams going to the SEC.
I say this because ESPN can drive the narrative "reporting" that it's being considered. At this point TV contracts are driving conference realignment more than ever ESPN and the SEC would love to add two more teams to be equated with the big10 in # of teams and get a bigger chunk of the TX market.
TCU keeps winning it could be them and Baylor. Three out of four of the biggest TX teams > TX, and ESPN already has the Longhorn Network.
ESPN wins and doesn't care what the impact is in those they don't affiliate with.
I don't think any conference is even thinking about going to 16 right now. The 14-school size seems shaky to begin with, and as schools go 7 years between playing each other in the SEC, they'll realize that it feels less and less like a conference.
I think the Big 10 is seeing the crap fest that's starting. SOOO many bad teams that if you're a good team and you suck it up in the non-conf, you might not get the schedule to help you get back into contention for the final four.
how many good teams do they have? OSU got beat at home by an average at best VT team. MSU got beat by 3 scores and Wisky got beat by LSU (who is in last place in the SEC west) and the Hawks got beat by ISU.
I see the 16 team leagues as a real possibility because they would be run as 1 league for business reasons (tv contracts, bowl negotiations, etc) and basically be run like 2 conferences for scheduling (each division would is essentially a smaller conference).
Schools will be told to deposit their $50+ million check and quit whining about how they never play their "rival" in the other division anymore or about how their SoS is now too weak to compete for a playoff spot - because they weren't going to get in anyway.
Yep. And the bigger the conference gets, the more their division would take care of the nostalgia needs. With a conference network pulling in cash, even 18 or 20 team conferences would work. Particularly if they increased the conference season.
This is the reason why I think we'll see the end of the conferences themselves before we get to "superconferences." I think that the 65 Power Five schools could break off and form their own league. At that point the teams would be divided so as to maximize money which means maximizing good matchups. The best ways to do that are to (1) have good teams play good teams, and (2) have teams play rivals/traditionally good matchups.
So I think the Power Five would just divide their schools into something like six "divisions" (probably with the same conference names still) of 11 schools each, where each team plays the other 10 from their division, plus two schools from other divisions that are of roughly equal quality (i.e. #3 team from last year in Division A plays #3 from Division B and Division F), and then the division winners + two wild cards make it to the 8-team playoff.
In short, the power conferences will soon realize (as happens in all oligopolies) that they will make more money by collaborating rather than competing.
Nothing screams ACC like BYU...
confused:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...all/25006109/report-acc-changes-stance-on-byu
confused:http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...all/25006109/report-acc-changes-stance-on-byu
Nothing screams ACC like BYU...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...all/25006109/report-acc-changes-stance-on-byu
All they're saying is that the ACC teams will now play BYU since the conference considers BYU a P5 school. There was absolutely no mention of BYU joining the ACC.
Would love to see that happen but I don't think if ever will. Are you going to tell the SEC to just join the rest? These conferences are always going to be competing for TV revenue. Instead of working together they are going to be battling each other just like it always has been. Why do you think the Big East fell? We had a chance to help our conference and hurt the ACC and we didn't do it. Now we are the bottom conference and the one that the other conferences will look to poach when the time is right.
Nothing screams ACC like BYU...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...all/25006109/report-acc-changes-stance-on-byu
Uh, yeah, I would consider BYU a P5 school. That's all the ACC is saying. BYU is a P5 school in their book.
There goes Sunday games for ACC with BYU. No drinking allowed at games. A lot of ginger on the floor when they play.:wideeyed:All they're saying is that the ACC teams will now play BYU since the conference considers BYU a P5 school. There was absolutely no mention of BYU joining the ACC.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...le-game-after-college-football-playoff-snubs/
Expansion and a conference title game are not coming any time soon. Good move in my opinion.
Expansion and a conference title game are not coming any time soon. Good move in my opinion.
Most definitely. A 14 team conference swings more weight than our ten team league.
The only reason why staying at 10 is a "good" move is because there aren't any realistic options for addition at this point.
I'd rather keep it at 10. I don't want to see any poor teams basically ruin the conference in basketball for the sake of football. I know this isn't how anyone else that matters thinks on the subject but it's still a minor concern of mine.
I think your take is the same as the AD's and university presidents in the Big 12, so it's OK. What we have is what every league would want, if it weren't all about the cable TV markets for their networks.
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