*** Official 2025 Chicago Cubs Thread***

Per people I know are in the know, the Cubs were willing to pay double the value they viewed certain SPs at this deadline. The cheapest offer they received was triple what they valued certain players at.

It’s obviously frustrating not getting a high ceiling SP at the deadline but hindsight 20/20 it worked out for the best
 
To be fair, this was a tough trade deadline this year, there was little movement of significant players compared to most years. Hard to make a deal if no one wants to sell.
Exactly this. Its exhausting how everyone just rips the FO for not making a big move, but fails to understand this point. Nobody knows what the FO tried to do, and what the other side was asking for in return.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NENick
Exactly this. Its exhausting how everyone just rips the FO for not making a big move, but fails to understand this point. Nobody knows what the FO tried to do, and what the other side was asking for in return.
Disagree. Big market teams aren’t looking ahead to 2032 the way the Cubs seem to be. The prospect obsession comes down to one thing— cheap labor.

It’s not just this deadline. It’s the last several offseasons as well. It’s always “we’re all in and ready to make a splash” followed by “prices were too high.” Every single time. And all being responsible has gotten us is no playoff trips since 2020 and no playoffs wins since 2017.
 
Last edited:
It’s fine he was available to PH. They kept 3 catchers because of risk of Injuries. Which it happened with Amaya. Hate it for him he got hurt tonight but it’s why they kept McGuire. The move paid off. They didn’t lose McGuire to waivers. He’s back to being the back up who will see 1 start a week. The Front Office has shown they absolutely have no trust in Mo catching right now. That has been my point they made him untouchable in trades. The team didn’t make a big move to help them in 2025. They currently have no faith in him Catching over a career back up Catcher so he sits in AAA. It will be interesting to see who comes up now with Amaya going down.
If you are only carrying two catchers you won’t use the other to pinch hit except as a last resort. That’s the advantage of carrying three. I think Mo will start off as a third catcher next year.
 
Shota, Boyd, Horton at the moment are the top 3 in the rotation with Horton a rookie and innings concerns down the stretch and Boyd throwing more innings than he has in 5 seasons. Taillon will be in the mix even if those 2 stay healthy and fresh as he is a proven arm. We need him in the rotation right now as we struggle to get a good outing out of the 5th spot in the rotation these days if we even have a starter healthy to go 5 for that turn in the rotation.
I agree he’ll be in the mix this year. But I hope they deal him in the offseason because we signed someone better.
 
Per people I know are in the know, the Cubs were willing to pay double the value they viewed certain SPs at this deadline. The cheapest offer they received was triple what they valued certain players at.

It’s obviously frustrating not getting a high ceiling SP at the deadline but hindsight 20/20 it worked out for the best

Exactly this. Its exhausting how everyone just rips the FO for not making a big move, but fails to understand this point. Nobody knows what the FO tried to do, and what the other side was asking for in return.
I 100% agree that the asking price seemed to be way too high for SP's this trade market and I am glad they didn't do something stupid like trade Horton or Shaw. BUT it's a consistent slap to the face to the most loyal fanbase in sports when it seems like every year the FO is putting out the message that they're "all in" whether it's the offseason or trade deadline and then don't do anything that actually moves the needle. The Tucker trade (while not looking as good the last month plus) was great but is looking more like a one off than actually making splash moves like the rest of the teams around our payroll consistently do
 
  • Like
Reactions: Clonefan32
You know, I saw a comment somewhere, don’t remember where now, that made a good point about Tucker. His struggles in the second half here have impacted his value in the market significantly. So, ironically, it might now actually be more likely he’s with the Cubs in 26 than if he’d kept ripping it like he was in the first half. Maybe the Cubs sign him long term at a more palatable rate, maybe he does a Bellinger and accepts a pillow deal to rebuild max value. Surely he knows he’s not getting the 400MM contract people were talking about in April.
 
You know, I saw a comment somewhere, don’t remember where now, that made a good point about Tucker. His struggles in the second half here have impacted his value in the market significantly. So, ironically, it might now actually be more likely he’s with the Cubs in 26 than if he’d kept ripping it like he was in the first half. Maybe the Cubs sign him long term at a more palatable rate, maybe he does a Bellinger and accepts a pillow deal to rebuild max value. Surely he knows he’s not getting the 400MM contract people were talking about in April.
There is no way he accepts a pillow deal. Worst case scenario he still gets a contract well north of $300M deal this offseason
 
  • Agree
Reactions: ScottyP and GoHawks
You know, I saw a comment somewhere, don’t remember where now, that made a good point about Tucker. His struggles in the second half here have impacted his value in the market significantly. So, ironically, it might now actually be more likely he’s with the Cubs in 26 than if he’d kept ripping it like he was in the first half. Maybe the Cubs sign him long term at a more palatable rate, maybe he does a Bellinger and accepts a pillow deal to rebuild max value. Surely he knows he’s not getting the 400MM contract people were talking about in April.
He isn’t having a bad season; his numbers are just slightly below his career averages. Some fans may have expected Judge- or Ohtani-level production, but Tucker is not on that tier.
 
If you are only carrying two catchers you won’t use the other to pinch hit except as a last resort. That’s the advantage of carrying three. I think Mo will start off as a third catcher next year.
They have Pinch Hit Kelly before when he’s on the bench with just 2 catchers but yes you want to make sure it’s late or it’s the last resort. If Tucker doesn’t resign Mo is the starting DH/3rd Catcher. Just feels like they don’t love his defense behind the plate. The 3 catchers plan worked you didn’t lose McGuire. They now don’t have pick between Perez or throwing Mo behind the plate in the Majors this year.
 
You know, I saw a comment somewhere, don’t remember where now, that made a good point about Tucker. His struggles in the second half here have impacted his value in the market significantly. So, ironically, it might now actually be more likely he’s with the Cubs in 26 than if he’d kept ripping it like he was in the first half. Maybe the Cubs sign him long term at a more palatable rate, maybe he does a Bellinger and accepts a pillow deal to rebuild max value. Surely he knows he’s not getting the 400MM contract people were talking about in April.
That was me I'm pretty brilliant. Humble too.

I don't think he gets 400 mil as it is right now but it's fluid. He could still turn it around. Right now I could see anywhere from $325 to $450 honestly depending on how season plays out. At the lower end of that I think Cubs would be a potential suitor but I'm guessing
 
There is no way he accepts a pillow deal. Worst case scenario he still gets a contract well north of $300M deal this offseason
I agree but do think somethings work against him. He's older compared to most guys that get this 10 year 400+ the contract. A lot of them are around 26-27 whereas he'll be 29 next season. I can't imagine Mets or Dodgers being heavy bidders for him which is 2 of the 3 biggest stake raisers. They you also have the impending lockout don't know how much if any of a factor that will be. I've seen predictions from him that range from low 300's to 500. Hard to tell
 
I agree but do think somethings work against him. He's older compared to most guys that get this 10 year 400+ the contract. A lot of them are around 26-27 whereas he'll be 29 next season. I can't imagine Mets or Dodgers being heavy bidders for him which is 2 of the 3 biggest stake raisers. They you also have the impending lockout don't know how much if any of a factor that will be. I've seen predictions from him that range from low 300's to 500. Hard to tell
I actually see the Dodgers, along with the Yankees and Giants being players with the Cubs. The lockout will be a major factor at least from the cubs perspective
 
  • Like
Reactions: GoHawks
I actually see the Dodgers, along with the Yankees and Giants being players with the Cubs. The lockout will be a major factor at least from the cubs perspective
Can never be too sure with Dodgers but they have 3 solid of's starting every day under contract for few years, and strength of their farm is outfielders 1 of which zyhir hope came from Chicago in Busch trade. I'd be suprised if Dodgers spend Dodger money anywhere but rotation in offseason. Giants and Yankees will be competitors I agree
 
You keep saying this, but who in their right mind thought we were getting Judge or Ohtani?
If you expected him to maintain his early-season pace, you were essentially expecting Judge- or Ohtani-level production. Since then, he’s regressed to his career norms, which has led some people to assume something is seriously wrong with Tucker.
 
If you expected him to maintain his early-season pace, you were essentially expecting Judge- or Ohtani-level production. Since then, he’s regressed to his career norms, which has led some people to assume something is seriously wrong with Tucker.
I think part of it is that if you eliminate his red hot start to the season, he hasn't really done much. It seems he's been in a prolonged slump (not sure if stats back that up or not).