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Not for appraisers, it is above grade; as determined by ANSI. Assessors and Real estate agents may include other things but for appraisals, it is strictly above grade.
Maybe thats how it is with appraisers, but in just every day conversation you talk about finished square feet, because people spend a lot of time in their basements if it's finished. I could tell you I have a 1700 square foot ranch if only including above grade, but in reality it's over 3000 finished square feet with a family room and 3 bedrooms downstairs. Which one paints a more accurate picture of my living situation?
 
Not for appraisers, it is above grade; as determined by ANSI. Assessors and Real estate agents may include other things but for appraisals, it is strictly above grade.

Where I live, if it's finished, it's counted as square footage. It very much threw me off when I moved out of Iowa.

Is appraisal a banking thing? Because my county taxes me based on an assessment and I buy/sell based off of real estate agent listings... I can't even figure out where the hell I'd look up an appraisal of my property. I can confidently say I've never seen a square footage listed of my house that was not inclusive of all of the finished square feet.
 
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Maybe thats how it is with appraisers, but in just every day conversation you talk about finished square feet, because people spend a lot of time in their basements if it's finished. I could tell you I have a 1700 square foot ranch if only including above grade, but in reality it's over 3000 finished square feet with a family room and 3 bedrooms downstairs. Which one paints a more accurate picture of my living situation?
1700 with a partially finished basement.
 
Where I live, if it's finished, it's counted as square footage. It very much threw me off when I moved out of Iowa.

Is appraisal a banking thing? Because my county taxes me based on an assessment and I buy/sell based off of real estate agent listings... I can't even figure out where the hell I'd look up an appraisal of my property. I can confidently say I've never seen a square footage listed of my house that was not inclusive of all of the finished square feet.
Most common use of appraisals are for lending, estates, and situations like divorces. In Iowa, appraisers, agents and assessors are supposed to all use above grade. I can not speak for out of state agents or assessors.
 
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Most common use of appraisals are for lending, estates, and situations like divorces. In Iowa, appraisers, agents and assessors are supposed to all use above grade. I can not speak for out of state agents or assessors.

Looks like Fannie Mae is leading the charge for the ANSI definition. Still, though, outside of a legal or banking setting, it makes zero sense to use that terminology. My house is just under 4,000 sq ft. ~3,700 finished. Ranch with a basement. So in appraisal terms it must be right around 2,000 sq ft. I've never seen a document with that number on it anywhere though. And for the purposes of this conversation its even more inaccurate. This would be more about heated sq ft.
 
Where I live, if it's finished, it's counted as square footage. It very much threw me off when I moved out of Iowa.

Is appraisal a banking thing? Because my county taxes me based on an assessment and I buy/sell based off of real estate agent listings... I can't even figure out where the hell I'd look up an appraisal of my property. I can confidently say I've never seen a square footage listed of my house that was not inclusive of all of the finished square feet.
It may change by county, but they list finished basement area on the assessor page in Polk County. Pretty sure appraisals are done by banks usually for financing purposes, and I've never had one done so I can't say for sure on that. It's weird that @BCClone thinks that's the only standard that should apply in all areas of real-estate, but that's his perogative I guess.
 
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It may change by county, but they list finished basement area on the assessor page in Polk County. Pretty sure appraisals are done by banks usually for financing purposes, and I've never had one done so I can't say for sure on that. It's weird that @BCClone thinks that's the only standard that should apply in all areas of real-estate, but that's his prerogative I guess.

I do think that in some cases, in Iowa specifically, the "ground floor only" approach was/is more common. I remember when I moved away that I was confused how/when square footage was counted.

Now I'm conditioned for the opposite. If it's finished it counts for everything I've seen around here.
 
I do think that in some cases, in Iowa specifically, the "ground floor only" approach was/is more common. I remember when I moved away that I was confused how/when square footage was counted.

Now I'm conditioned for the opposite. If it's finished it counts for everything I've seen around here.
You can call it however you like. My last question is, when you build a house, what do you tell the builder? Every one I've built or helped with has been above grade and with or without basement and then if we are going to finish the basement or not.
 
I do think that in some cases, in Iowa specifically, the "ground floor only" approach was/is more common. I remember when I moved away that I was confused how/when square footage was counted.

Now I'm conditioned for the opposite. If it's finished it counts for everything I've seen around here.
If you go home shopping you will see them list the square footage of the home in the title and usually that only includes above grade, but in the property description they always list finish square footage if the basement is finished. Of course they would, because they want to sell the home and that info is important to a lot of people.
 
Ankeny just cancelled classes for tomorrow. It looks like almost everyone else is on a two hour delay.
 
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60% chance of snow for Thursday :cool:
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