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Sounds like he's not happy about DH'ing and we have too many outfielders. Couple that with his inability to catch a fly ball and here we are.
I did see that they have had Seiya practicing at 1B over the winter. If they trust him there by the start of the season, Suzuki can primary DH while being able to let Busch and Tucker take the occasional day off from the field. It's not a bad compromise in my mind.
 
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If they trade Seiya it will be because he and his agent asked the Cubs to explore it. There was already rumblings earlier the Cubs asked his agent about a trade and doesn't seem like anything came of it. With a full NTC the options and return is going to be limited so it's in the Cubs best interest for now to hold onto him and use him mostly as DH and occasional start in the field. If he could field routine fly balls better this wouldn't even be an issue. If he can competently play 1B that would be a bonus too but that is easier said than done with a lot of players with defensive issues. I always think of this scene when I hear fans say "we can just have him play 1B" when trying to find a fit for someone

 
Yeah, I guess. I think the DH thing is a bit overblown by his agent. It's not good for his next contract to be strictly a DH.

I just don't see how trading your 2nd best hitter on a pretty team friendly contract is good business.

Edit: And even if he doesn't want to DH, what is he going to do about it? It's not like he's going to tank and be a ***** about it. He'll suck it up.
Agree only way you Trade Suzuki is if you can get a bigger bat. To me that’s basically Santander and nobody else.
 
If they trade Seiya it will be because he and his agent asked the Cubs to explore it. There was already rumblings earlier the Cubs asked his agent about a trade and doesn't seem like anything came of it. With a full NTC the options and return is going to be limited so it's in the Cubs best interest for now to hold onto him and use him mostly as DH and occasional start in the field. If he could field routine fly balls better this wouldn't even be an issue. If he can competently play 1B that would be a bonus too but that is easier said than done with a lot of players with defensive issues. I always think of this scene when I hear fans say "we can just have him play 1B" when trying to find a fit for someone


Yeah, I am not condoning putting him at 1st haha. Let him DH and give guys days off.

I understand his agent asked for it, and I'd even do it in the right deal. I just don't see how there's a deal out there right now that makes the Cubs better. I'm sorry if he doesn't want to DH but he's going to have to suck it up.
 
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If they trade Seiya it will be because he and his agent asked the Cubs to explore it. There was already rumblings earlier the Cubs asked his agent about a trade and doesn't seem like anything came of it. With a full NTC the options and return is going to be limited so it's in the Cubs best interest for now to hold onto him and use him mostly as DH and occasional start in the field. If he could field routine fly balls better this wouldn't even be an issue. If he can competently play 1B that would be a bonus too but that is easier said than done with a lot of players with defensive issues. I always think of this scene when I hear fans say "we can just have him play 1B" when trying to find a fit for someone


I wonder if one of the reasons they traded Mervis was to get Caissie some innings at 1st in Iowa.
 
Agree only way you Trade Suzuki is if you can get a bigger bat. To me that’s basically Santander and nobody else.
I suppose if you get good value back for Suzuki and then sign Santander I would entertain it. Santander will give you more HR but I don't see him as a better overall player or bat otherwise.
 
I wonder if one of the reasons they traded Mervis was to get Caissie some innings at 1st in Iowa.
It's possible but the main reason they traded Mervis was he had no path to Chicago at this point. Unless something crazy happens in spring training or there are some trades I think there is a good chance Canario is the backup OF since he is out of options and can play all 3 OF positions. The only way he is not is if they trade or cut him at this point. Alcantara and Caissie may get a chance to earn a spot out of camp with a hot spring training but as long as Canario is still in the picture and doesn't look horrible in ST he's the likely guy for the spot for now. I think both Alcantara and Caissie have the potential to push for a callup with a hot start in Iowa and finding a 2nd position for Caissie would be ideal as where are the AB going to come from with Happ, PCA, Tucker, 4th OF and Suzuki all in the mix? Trying Suzuki and even Happ who has prior infield experience at 1B in ST would help open up some AB too. I'd have more confidence in Happ than Suzuki being able to play 1B well enough but my guess is they won't try it with him since he's won Gold Gloves in LF.
 
Not sure why you'd trade Suzuki to spend more money for more years of a worse player that's the same age.
Exactly. As it stands, Seiya is the Cubs second best hitter, and he's on a relatively cheap deal. If the Cubs are going to sign a free agent with a qualifying offer attached, it should be Bregman on a short-term, high AAV deal. That's the one way to significantly improve the offense at potentially their weakest position (3B). Then you let Shaw play 2B at the beginning of the year, while Nico is out, and see if he sticks.
 
Exactly. As it stands, Seiya is the Cubs second best hitter, and he's on a relatively cheap deal. If the Cubs are going to sign a free agent with a qualifying offer attached, it should be Bregman on a short-term, high AAV deal. That's the one way to significantly improve the offense at potentially their weakest position (3B). Then you let Shaw play 2B at the beginning of the year, while Nico is out, and see if he sticks.

In hindsight we should of let Bellinger walk last offseason and signed Matt Chapman to play 3B instead. His original contract was just 3 years $54 mil with opt outs but signed an extension in Sept for 6 year $151 mil. Either way he cost slightly less than Bellinger did. He posted a 7.1 WAR last year which would of been nice to have at 3B.

I like the idea of Bregman too but I don't see this front office going that direction. I don't get the point of trading one of your best prospects for a rental player like Tucker if you aren't going to significantly improve the overall roster around him. I think most fans took the Tucker trade as a sign they were finally going to get serious about competing and make some bold moves next to go with it but instead Jed's back to dumpster diving for bargains.
 
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Not sure why you'd trade Suzuki to spend more money for more years of a worse player that's the same age.

If Suzuki is willing to platoon with Busch at 1B and play DH, then Suzuki makes sense as a Cub. But if that role is a problem for him, then a trade makes a lot of sense.

With the possibility Tucker walks after 2025 and Happ/Suzuki are FA's after 2026 the Cubs need to develop Caissie, Alacantara or Canario in Chicago during the coming season. IMO the Cubs FO needs to have some confidence one of those 3 can be an everyday outfielder in 2026.

I understand the appreciation for guys like Suzuki and Happ- but the reality is they are .260-.280 hitters who'll knock 20-25 HR's. Nice production for the corner OF spots, but just enough to be a .500 team the last 2 years with the surrounding roster. Maybe Tucker can be the difference maker that Bellinger wasn't, but it probably needs to come from multiple spots: DH, 1B, 3B or SS. In the case of SS, Swanson needs to have a break-out year in 2025.
 
If Suzuki is willing to platoon with Busch at 1B and play DH, then Suzuki makes sense as a Cub. But if that role is a problem for him, then a trade makes a lot of sense.

With the possibility Tucker walks after 2025 and Happ/Suzuki are FA's after 2026 the Cubs need to develop Caissie, Alacantara or Canario in Chicago during the coming season. IMO the Cubs FO needs to have some confidence one of those 3 can be an everyday outfielder in 2026.

I understand the appreciation for guys like Suzuki and Happ- but the reality is they are .260-.280 hitters who'll knock 20-25 HR's. Nice production for the corner OF spots, but just enough to be a .500 team the last 2 years with the surrounding roster. Maybe Tucker can be the difference maker that Bellinger wasn't, but it probably needs to come from multiple spots: DH, 1B, 3B or SS. In the case of SS, Swanson needs to have a break-out year in 2025.
I can get on board with Happ and Suzuki being somewhat redundant. That being said, they aren't the problem.

So far, you've replaced Bellinger with Tucker, which should be an upgrade. If you go out and trade Suzuki and sign Santander, for example, that's a minor upgrade at best. You still need more production elsewhere. Hopefully Shaw can be that. Bregman could be that, although I'm not necessarily sold thats the way to go. Hopefully PCA can be that. Hopefully the C situation can be that.
 
If Suzuki is willing to platoon with Busch at 1B and play DH, then Suzuki makes sense as a Cub. But if that role is a problem for him, then a trade makes a lot of sense.

With the possibility Tucker walks after 2025 and Happ/Suzuki are FA's after 2026 the Cubs need to develop Caissie, Alacantara or Canario in Chicago during the coming season. IMO the Cubs FO needs to have some confidence one of those 3 can be an everyday outfielder in 2026.

I understand the appreciation for guys like Suzuki and Happ- but the reality is they are .260-.280 hitters who'll knock 20-25 HR's. Nice production for the corner OF spots, but just enough to be a .500 team the last 2 years with the surrounding roster. Maybe Tucker can be the difference maker that Bellinger wasn't, but it probably needs to come from multiple spots: DH, 1B, 3B or SS. In the case of SS, Swanson needs to have a break-out year in 2025.
Happ and Suzuki are perfect pieces for a big market team that is actually willing to spend. If they were our 4th and 5th best hitters instead of 2nd and 3rd, everybody would love them. Same with Swanson, he's a consistent 4 WAR guy that plays elite defense with a league average bat, he's incredibly valuable. Jed just tried to convince the fan base that he was equal to the other big bat shortstops in that class and he just simply isn't offensively.

I'm fairly certain that Jed is done spending outside of, maybe, a pen arm and they're going to hope 87 wins is enough with the Brewers coming back to the pack.

This ownership and FO are all about participation trophies at this point. When Tom Ricketts said 'Win the World Series' when they bought the team, he clearly meant win one so that the money spigot continues to be wide open at Wrigley.

Sorry....
 
I'm beginning to think the Tucker move was just done to appease the fanbase. Give the appearance of trying, sell some tickets, but don't actually make any real financial investment.

If Cam Smith eventually turns into a stud and this is another disappointing season and Tucker walks then this will go down as the most bonehead move Jed has ever made. It would be right up there with some of the dumb moves Jim Hendry made. Then again if they turn into sellers at the deadline maybe he can recoup some prospect capital for Tucker too. Either way the only way fans were going to be pleased with this move was to add a few more significant pieces that moved this team from maybe contending for a wild card spot if all goes right to should contend to win the division caliber team.
 
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Yeah the Tucker trade is looking really suspect—-I can’t wait for Cam Smith to be an 8-time All-Star for the Astros.
 
I'm beginning to think the Tucker move was just done to appease the fanbase. Give the appearance of trying, sell some tickets, but don't actually make any real financial investment.
It saved them at least $8M over Bellinger. They want the other $2.5M so that's why there's an arbitration fight.

Tommy ain't approving spending $400M and Jed would **** his pants when he saw that number in writing on a contract.