New Used Car Opinion
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This is why you don't get vehicle advice from random people on the internet.
HAHA! Touche. If I was me, I would do more research to confirm what I was reading in psychlone99's posts. But I'm right.
Based on what?
The Mexico part of my post was actually the only questionable thing about it. Nissan's quality overall has dropped since the late 90s and early 2000s and that is a fact, according to both Consumer Reports and JD Power.
The Rogue, however, has exhibited at least average reliability.
The only part of your post that may be right is the "I'm a do-it-yourself guy for the most part". The rest is just crappy observations turned into generalities. Transmissions are far less prone to failure than historically.
To touch on the transmission question...According to CR data, they did have a lot of major transmission problems from 2008-2010 but it looks like the 2012 and newer have been pretty stellar.
You don't have to look very hard to find a lot of information about finicky CVTs. If you're able to have an honest conversation with a service tech (and I always speak to a sampling of techs for a specific make before buying a make/model I've never owned before), you might hear differently. A lot of CVTs, particularly first generation, are a bit sensitive. Many different manufacturers have had issues with them, including Nissan.
Regardless, the OP would be better off buying the car that feels better and has a solid maintenance history, even if it has some more miles on it.
Yeah, I have CR. These are 2013s which faired really well in their reliability ratings.
Tomorrow, call a couple of different Nissan dealerships (not the one where these Rogues are sitting). Ask for service, and tell them you want to speak with their tech who has the most experience with 2013 Rogues. Then ask what kind of issues they've seen thus far. You'll probably be surprised by the honesty. I usually am, and I think it's kept me from making a bad decision or two. They're not making commission on sales, and you'll usually get a pretty good run down when you hit them cold.
With a 2013, you likely have a CVT, but from what I recall reading I think Nissan got the kinks worked out of theirs a few model years earlier. You're probably good, but see what the techs have to say.
Do that. Then that noise you're hearing turns out to be a failing wheel bearing or CV joint, and there goes $500-800.
My bad. Misread your post. Absolutely, bargain them down... based on the mileage difference, of course. :yes:
I like the certified pre owned route. Gets a lot of the depreciation out of the way. Certifying it should extend the warranty. After agreeing on price, twice I've asked the sales manager, if he felt their certification and warranty were the best in the business. Upon the reassurance that it is, I countered with something like, if that's the case, it shouldn't be any risk for you to throw in the extended warranty then I'll sign. Both times it has worked. One Nissan and one Acura. Should help easy some fears of issues and prior ownership. Then buy the one with the best stereo and looks better even when dirty. Good Luck!
make sure at least one of the rogues has 500 horsepower minimum.
anything below is like riding in a rick shaw. its like being dragged across rural asia by an old chinese man who I resent for his vitality and endurance
anything below is like riding in a rick shaw. its like being dragged across rural asia by an old chinese man who I resent for his vitality and endurance
All driven miles are not equal. I live in the city and put around 10k annual on our regular vehicle. So to me 9k is almost a years worth of miles. $200 is taking the family to a restaurant 4 times. It's all relative I guess.
I'm not concerned about the price difference at all. Just curious what other people would do. Right now I've decided on Rogue 1, but since the price is negligible and Rogue 2 has 9k less miles I'm not 100% convinced I'm going with Rogue 1.
I also wonder why the dealership would value two identical cars virtually the same but one has 9k fewer miles. It seems like the value of those miles is way more than the $200 difference. So maybe the dealership knows that Rogue 2 has had a rougher life, I dunno.
FWIW I have already negotiated the crap out of the vehicles. At about $2k lower than sticker for both and the price that I'm at is definitely a deal from what I've been able to research on values. They started out $500 apart and through negotiating both cars I've gotten the price to essentially be the same.
The mileage thing isn't an end all be all. You've driven them, so you should go with what you are comfortable with. I was just making the point it's not like 9k is nothing like psychlone99 was implying. Even if it goes for 200,000 miles, that's 5%. But if you drove them both you should go with the one you like. None of us are going to test drive it.
For what it's worth, we have a 2015 Rogue bought last November. We've been really happy with it so far.
My wife had a Rogue and it was 100% reliable while we had it. 2013 is a good choice because that design had been out for a long time. SL is a good trim package. I'd be inclined to completely discard the one that doesn't feel right even if it has less miles.
The other thing to think about on certified pre-owned is which service they did on it before they put it for sale. On my current car it had 18k miles and they went ahead and did the 30k mile service which was worth nearly $1,000. They usually do the next big service, this is something I would question.
I don't know where you live but in Des Moines I've had good luck with Bart at Hummells. If you have a carmax near you, also consider that option.
The other thing to think about on certified pre-owned is which service they did on it before they put it for sale. On my current car it had 18k miles and they went ahead and did the 30k mile service which was worth nearly $1,000. They usually do the next big service, this is something I would question.
I don't know where you live but in Des Moines I've had good luck with Bart at Hummells. If you have a carmax near you, also consider that option.
