New/Recent Grads: Don't be this guy.

[CyForPresident]

I can relate to the guy. I've been looking for work for 2 months now and I had everything lined up to work until about 3 hours ago. HR rejected me for some reason and now I have until the end of the month before I'm homeless and have to move back in with my parents. I have some options in agriculture at least, this guy has little in finance.

This is just not the best time for opportunities.

 

[ISUguy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/business/economy/07generation.html

I love the comments at the bottom.

Would anybody hire this guy? If I was a manager I would google his name if I was looking to hire him, find this article, and change my decision.

I had a friend who teaches high school science. She was at the school that hired her out of college for two years before the school had to cut teachers. She taught both biology and physical science at this school.

She was offered a job at another school teaching both biology and physical science right after she was notified that she would be let go, but she decided she only wanted to teach biology and was going to hold out "for a while" to get a biology-only job. "For a while" is going on three years and counting.

 

[Marc936]

I don't see where he can get promotional opportunities with the attitude. If he's smart, he'll be able to prove that he is more beneficial to his employer by doing more than just low-level jobs. He fails to look at the big picture. Right now, he can say that he doesn't have debts, etc but the fact is still he doesn't have jobs. Let's see how long he can last.

Agree with you re: political science major and history minor. No offense, but why would you hire someone with that background to work in the job he was aiming at the financial services industry ?

there are some dead end jobs though. My uncle in the past was in nursing, 4 years later he was going no where and got tired of it. He actually switched to carpentry instead. Learned so much about the craft he started his own business, then started building luxury houses, now is a millionaire. I guess the way he saw it is the farthest he would get there is a raise every now and then.


and dont ask me, i think all liberal arts are useless majors, but thats a different topic

 

[cyclone13]

Yea, I guess I missed the part where he wasn't allowed to keep looking for a better job if he took the "dead end" one.

Wow, I missed that part too, so then he's arrogant and dumb then, instead of just naive. What employer has the power to forbid the employees to keep on looking for a better job ?

 

[Three4Cy]

As someone who teaches at the college level, his behavior is very common today. Most kids don't want to work, they want to be spoon-fed through college and expect you to pass them regardless if they ever show up or not, and they'd better get an A because they get A's in all their other classes. They also expect to enter the workforce in a management position or be in one within six months. They don't understand what it means to climb the corporate ladder. Also, many of them expect to be able to come and go as they please, and not follow any rules.

This kid fails to realize how good he has it, grandparents paid for college, so he can enter the workforce with no student loan debt, thus taking a job like he was offered and not having to worry about the burden of student loans taking his entire paycheck. Good luck getting hired buddy, with your attitiude you'll be stuck working as a temp forever.

 

[beatiowa]

I blame the parents. They are enabling him to wait out for his so called "corporate" job. If he didn't have a place and food paid for him he would of taken the job.

Exactly. If I moved back home my parents would make me go back to my high school job if I couldn't find anything else. Money is money. That guy needs to suck it up and just take pride in any job he can find rather than turning things down because he thinks he's too good for them. Any job is something to be proud of if you take pride in the work you do.

 

[BryceC]

I blame the parents. They are enabling him to wait out for his so called "corporate" job. If he didn't have a place and food paid for him he would of taken the job.

Oh, totally agree. Everybody can fall on hard times - but if my kid ever comes home and tells me he passed up a 40k a year job for whatever reason and he plans on continuing to live at home... well he has another thing coming.

 

[djcubby]

I can relate to the guy. I've been looking for work for 2 months now and I had everything lined up to work until about 3 hours ago. HR rejected me for some reason and now I have until the end of the month before I'm homeless and have to move back in with my parents. I have some options in agriculture at least, this guy has little in finance.

This is just not the best time for opportunities.

But at least you are smart enought to know in this economy, you take what you can get. Sure, HR pulled out on you, which sucks, but he turned down a job.

 

[cyclone13]

there are some dead end jobs though. My uncle in the past was in nursing, 4 years later he was going no where and got tired of it. He actually switched to carpentry instead. Learned so much about the craft he started his own business, then started building luxury houses, now is a millionaire. I guess the way he saw it is the farthest he would get there is a raise every now and then.


and dont ask me, i think all liberal arts are useless majors, but thats a different topic

What I mean is this guy, with his background, dreamt of the wrong things. With this background, he wants to apply for a job that requires certain education background.

I agree that there are some deadend jobs. But for this guy: it is a combination of stupidity and arrogance.

 

[isufbcurt]

In the article it states that his parents are paying all his expenses including his life insurance premium. Why does a kid just out of college with no one to support need to have life insurance anyways?

 

[Cyclonestate78]

If this guy was so set on a corporate gig, why the hell did he not do some sort of business major? Why is he not looking to go back to school and get an MBA? This is almost as bad as that article about the girl who went to Columbia for religious studies and couldn't figure out why she couldn't get a job to pay off that debt. How dumb are these people?

Hey.... there are a ton of high paying jobs in the field of religious studies.

 

[cyclone13]

In the article it states that his parents are paying all his expenses including his life insurance premium. Why does a kid just out of college with no one to support need to have life insurance anyways?

because probably after reading this article, so many people might want to kick him in the b.tt for his arrogance and stupidity

 

[Cyclonestate78]

In the article it states that his parents are paying all his expenses including his life insurance premium. Why does a kid just out of college with no one to support need to have life insurance anyways?

They are paying for it because they are the benificiaries on his policy. If he keeps turning down jobs and mooching off of them by living at home they are going to kill the little arrogant ***** to recoup all of the expense of having that bum at home eating Captain Crunch and scratching his *** all day while he watches cartoons.

 

[clone52]

I can relate to the guy. I've been looking for work for 2 months now and I had everything lined up to work until about 3 hours ago. HR rejected me for some reason and now I have until the end of the month before I'm homeless and have to move back in with my parents. I have some options in agriculture at least, this guy has little in finance.

This is just not the best time for opportunities.

Yeah, but I bet you aren't going to turn down a decent job because it isn't quite the thing you were looking for.

 

[WalkingCY]

As someone who teaches at the college level, his behavior is very common today. Most kids don't want to work, they want to be spoon-fed through college and expect you to pass them regardless if they ever show up or not, and they'd better get an A because they get A's in all their other classes. They also expect to enter the workforce in a management position or be in one within six months. They don't understand what it means to climb the corporate ladder. Also, many of them expect to be able to come and go as they please, and not follow any rules.

This kid fails to realize how good he has it, grandparents paid for college, so he can enter the workforce with no student loan debt, thus taking a job like he was offered and not having to worry about the burden of student loans taking his entire paycheck. Good luck getting hired buddy, with your attitiude you'll be stuck working as a temp forever.

well said.

 

[weR138]

I guess I'm confused on the definition of dead-end job. I get the nursing example (although Nurse Practitioners and Nurse Anethstetists make very good money). But does this guy think he has no hope of owning the company he had an offer from? I mean, my personal goal is to become a partner in the firm I'm at. It seems short sighted to call any job that pays a salary and requires college a "dead-end" job. This guy is just unmotivated.

That said, I do feel sorry for kids coming out now. It's tough finding work right now.

 

[CloneFan65]

I can relate to the guy. I've been looking for work for 2 months now and I had everything lined up to work until about 3 hours ago. HR rejected me for some reason and now I have until the end of the month before I'm homeless and have to move back in with my parents. I have some options in agriculture at least, this guy has little in finance.

This is just not the best time for opportunities.

Sorry to hear that. The economy is tough right now. But would you turn down a $40,000 a year job because you thought it was beneath you? That's why I don't feel bad for the guy in the article. Good luck. I can relatte to you as I was a temp in a warehouse after college before deciding I needed to go back to grad school.

 

[cloneu]

I know plenty of people that I work with who took a job that wasn't what they were looking for, just so they could get in the door. Then after a year they were able to transfer to the area that they wanted to work in.

How hard is it to do something you don't like for a year to get to a place that you want to be in?

 

[Three4Cy]

I know plenty of people that I work with who took a job that wasn't what they were looking for, just so they could get in the door. Then after a year they were able to transfer to the area that they wanted to work in.

How hard is it to do something you don't like for a year to get to a place that you want to be in?

Scary thing is - you might do it for a year and really like it. You can't win if you don't play - and playing the game is the only way to ever know if you like something.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

I know plenty of people that I work with who took a job that wasn't what they were looking for, just so they could get in the door. Then after a year they were able to transfer to the area that they wanted to work in.

How hard is it to do something you don't like for a year to get to a place that you want to be in?

THIS! If everyone sat down after finishing school and wrote down a list of what kind of company they wanted to work for, what they wanted to do for them, and how much they wanted to make and just sat there and waited for that perfect job.... The unemployment rate in this country would be around 90%. It doesn't happen like that. It is called making a sacrifice to be able to get where you want to be in the end. I would say it is probably pretty damn rare that someone gets their dream job right out of the gate. :dull: