New commit?

[ripvdub]

I dont subscribe, but looks like there might be. I just hope its not a long snapper or a place holder. Would be nice to get someone on the offensive or defensive line.

Just found it on Scout.com A juco TE it looks like

http://iowastate.scout.com/2/876525.html

 

[cyclonejk]

Anyone know how many years of eligibility he has left?

 

[2forISU]

2 years. I bet he will be playing def. side of the ball.

 

[CylentButDeadly]

This is just a feeling, but the potential could be there for this to be a Ron Prince type class. I'm not saying we're going to go out and sign 25 JUCOs like Prince, but don't be surprised if it's a double-digit number.

 

[CylentButDeadly]

...oh, and welcome to the Cyclone Family. Best of luck!

 

[CyPride]

This is just a feeling, but the potential could be there for this to be a Ron Prince type class. I'm not saying we're going to go out and sign 25 JUCOs like Prince, but don't be surprised if it's a double-digit number.

if that is true, not a good start to "program-building" like so many of us have touted on here......

 

[swarthmoreCY]

if that is true, not a good start to "program-building" like so many of us have touted on here......

Yep, JUCO's never worked for Bill Synder either.

 

[Cystate22]

If we recruit as many as Prince did we would be in trouble. It is never good to have that many juco's in one class. We will always look to the Juco's to fill spots we need, but to take as many as Ron did would be a bad long term plan. I doubt PR will be doing that.

 

[thatguy]

Bill Snyder was very successfull using JUCO kids. The key is to make sure you fill it in with enough highschool kids so you aren't relying every year on JUCO's like what Prince did.

 

[isuno1fan]

My only problem with JUCO kids is guaranteeing that they make it to campus and stay eligible. That's where it can bite you in the butt is when these guys can't get their academics in line and they never see the field.

 

[CycloneWarrior]

His name is Ricky Howard

 

[thatguy]

Ya Bill Snyder had a way of dealing with that. Alot of those K-State guys majored in "Social Science" which wasn't even an offered major at K-State at that point. I'm not sure how he got away with it, but with recent findings, I think Mr. Snyder might be a little dirtier than originally thought.

 

[isuno1fan]

Ya Bill Snyder had a way of dealing with that. Alot of those K-State guys majored in "Social Science" which wasn't even an offered major at K-State at that point. I'm not sure how he got away with it, but with recent findings, I think Mr. Snyder might be a little dirtier than originally thought.

Snyder learned from Hayden Fry who was a well known crook when it came to the rules and bending them. I've never thought Snyder was anything but...

 

[clonedude]

2 years. I bet he will be playing def. side of the ball.

He better be. We don't need a JUCO TE.

But if we want defense, why wouldn't we just go get a JUCO DE or DT instead of a TE?

As for JUCOs in general... I think anywhere in the single digits (0-9) is fine, but I don't like signing much more than that. It's way too risky and really can ruin the future of the program IMO.

Most JUCOs come in not ready to play right away because they lack the strength and conditioning that they need. A lot of JUCO programs don't even have a strength and conditioning program.

I hope to see a lot of beef in this class on the offensive and defensive lines... and some LBs too. It just seems like Iowa keeps signing these big guys on both lines... and we sign 8 WRs, 6 DBs, and a punter. I want to see some big bodies.

 

[thatguy]

Snyder learned from Hayden Fry who was a well known crook when it came to the rules and bending them. I've never thought Snyder was anything but...

It is starting to look that way. Not break the rules, but not exactly follow them either. That K-State program in it's hay day would take kids that couldn't qualify anywhere else, or who no other school would touch with a ten foot pole, and stick them in the middle of Kansas where it would be hard pressed to do anything wrong, and if they did, it was very easy to cover up.
Backfires however when in Tempe for a BCS game. That whole team should have been suspeneded not just Ell Roberson.

 

[CylentButDeadly]

For the first 2-3 years, it wouldn't surprise if PR routinely brings in classes with double digit JUCOs, not because he wants to, but because he has to out of necessity. He's said it himself that the team speed and athleticism is not where he wants it to be. Couple that with the fact that 3 and 4 star HS recruits aren't exactly knocking down our door to come play for ISU, and I think the early years of the PR regime are going to have a big JUCO focus, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I'm just using his first class, including the late signees and his public statements as examples. The only positive to this, is that we have a lot of young, talented guys on the roster that have B12 experience that have at least 2-3 years left of elgibility.

If this turns out to be true, it will be imperative that our HS guys develop and turn into solid contributors. The JUCO game is a crapshoot, and if you have some guys that don't pan out, you better have your 4-5 year guys to pick up the slack.

 

[thatguy]

and I'm fine with that, if it works. If we have a 20 man recruiting class and 8 or 9 of them are JUCO kids, probably 5 or 6 will stay in school and hopefully contribute, that way we can develop the two and three stars we are getting and get them on the field as Juniors

 

[clonedude]

For the first 2-3 years, it wouldn't surprise if PR routinely brings in classes with double digit JUCOs, not because he wants to, but because he has to out of necessity. He's said it himself that the team speed and athleticism is not where he wants it to be. Couple that with the fact that 3 and 4 star HS recruits aren't exactly knocking down our door to come play for ISU, and I think the early years of the PR regime are going to have a big JUCO focus, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I'm just using his first class, including the late signees and his public statements as examples. The only positive to this, is that we have a lot of young, talented guys on the roster that have B12 experience that have at least 2-3 years left of elgibility.

If this turns out to be true, it will be imperative that our HS guys develop and turn into solid contributors. The JUCO game is a crapshoot, and if you have some guys that don't pan out, you better have your 4-5 year guys to pick up the slack.

You're probably right. I'm just sick of hearing nearly every single year that we need to bring in JUCOs because the team doesn't have basically any talent. How long is it going to be for that to change?

 

[CYVADER]

Hesperia Scorpions High School Football Stats 07-08 - MaxPreps

played te and dl in high school, not great stats but a little more info

http://virginiatech.scout.com/a.z?s=191&p=8&c=1&nid=3525407

scout profile out of high school

 

[Bigdaddydog]

Hesperia Scorpions High School Football Stats 07-08 - MaxPreps

played te and dl in high school, not great stats but a little more info

Scout.com: Ricky Howard Profile

scout profile out of high school

Thanks for the links.

As for the stats, the HS team was not much of a passing team. They looked to rely on the run so that is not such a great indicator of his talent. It would be nice to see some video of the kid to see what he's got.


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