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NCAA should set up a points system for the playoff

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Winning power 5 conference championship = x points - a big number.
# of wins = x points.
Wins over ranked opponents = x points.

Add up the points, the 4 teams with the most points get in. It should be very difficult for a school which doesn't win their conference to get in the playoff.

This bowl committee is far too political. Alabama gets in because they only have 1 loss - but if they had played in the conference championship they could very easily have 2 losses. Same with Ohio State in 2016. A school is better off losing a game and not making the conference championship game and waiting for a spot to open up when higher ranked teams lose in the conference championship game. It isn't a new system, simply an extension of the old system with more teams.
 
Expand to 8 team playoff where P5 conferences send best teams and remaining 3 are at-large bids determined by aggregate of advanced metrics (no committees, no use of polls)

p.s. ^ @ISUCubswin beat me to it.
 
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I still prefer 16 teams. Take every conference champ, and 6 at-larges. You'd give the top 3-4 teams every year a cupcake matchup in the first round, but at least every team in the FBS can say they get a shot.

First round you play at the higher seeds. The remaining 7 games in the quarter-finals, semi-finals, and championship game played in the NY6 bowl games.
 
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EarthIsMan said:
Expand to 8 team playoff where P5 conferences send best teams and remaining 3 are at-large bids determined by aggregate of advanced metrics (no committees, no use of polls)

p.s. ^ @ISUCubswin beat me to it.
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This would be the best.

No need to do 'points' when all that does is attempt to do something in a simple way that computer metrics can do much better.
 
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Expand it to 8 teams and move the liberty bowl to some where more interesting then Memphis like i don't know...Philly (home of the liberty bell) or DC.
 
chuckd4735 said:
I still prefer 16 teams. Take every conference champ, and 6 at-larges. You'd give the top 3-4 teams every year a cupcake matchup in the first round, but at least every team in the FBS can say they get a shot.

First round you play at the higher seeds. The remaining 7 games in the quarter-finals, semi-finals, and championship game played in the NY6 bowl games.
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I am 100% in favor of 16 teams, but feel the NCAA will take awhile before they get to this. I do think it's in the future though.

Amazing that D2 or whatever the hell North Dakota State and UNI are have it down so much better than FBS
 
Life would just be so much easier if there were 8 conferences of 10 teams.
Every conference plays round robin.
Each conference champion is the AQ in an 8 team playoff.
Quarterfinal games are played at the higher seeds home stadium.
Semi finals and Championship are played at the standard neutral sites.
 
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**** it, 128 team single elimination tournament. Leading up to week 1, each team submits a sealed bid for opponents. Bids are revealed on a 36 hour ESPN show. Highest bidder gets that opponent. For example, Alabama bids $1.3m for Mercer, OSU bids $1.5m. Week 1 has OSU vs Mercer and OSU pays Mercer AD $1.5m. Then Alabama's second bid, say $1.1m for Kansas, is compared to all other bids for Kansas.

Teams recieving no bids are randomly paired with teams that won no bids. Immediately after week 1, ADs from winning teams start submitting bids for week 2. Lather rinse repeat until only one school remains. Thats only an 8 season, but it keeps the teams with the most money in power which is what college football is all about.
 
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**** it, 128 team single elimination tournament. Leading up to week 1, each team submits a sealed bid for opponents. Bids are revealed on a 36 hour ESPN show. Highest bidder gets that opponent. For example, Alabama bids $1.3m for Mercer, OSU bids $1.5m. Week 1 has OSU vs Mercer and OSU pays Mercer AD $1.5m. Then Alabama's second bid, say $1.1m for Kansas, is compared to all other bids for Kansas.

Teams recieving no bids are randomly paired with teams that won no bids. Immediately after week 1, ADs from winning teams start submitting bids for week 2. Lather rinse repeat until only one school remains. Thats only an 8 season, but it keeps the teams with the most money in power which is what college football is all about.
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I love this. You are a genius and deserve all the moneys.
 
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chuckd4735 said:
I still prefer 16 teams. Take every conference champ, and 6 at-larges. You'd give the top 3-4 teams every year a cupcake matchup in the first round, but at least every team in the FBS can say they get a shot.

First round you play at the higher seeds. The remaining 7 games in the quarter-finals, semi-finals, and championship game played in the NY6 bowl games.
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24, 8 byes. No conference championships. I’d sacrifice the 12th game too, if necessary. 16 team NIT of sorts too.
 
Newell said:
Winning power 5 conference championship = x points - a big number.
# of wins = x points.
Wins over ranked opponents = x points.

Add up the points, the 4 teams with the most points get in. It should be very difficult for a school which doesn't win their conference to get in the playoff.

This bowl committee is far too political. Alabama gets in because they only have 1 loss - but if they had played in the conference championship they could very easily have 2 losses. Same with Ohio State in 2016. A school is better off losing a game and not making the conference championship game and waiting for a spot to open up when higher ranked teams lose in the conference championship game. It isn't a new system, simply an extension of the old system with more teams.
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Which poll? Ranked when: at the time of the game, or at the end of the season? Hard to remove all subjectivity (poll only era), hard to rely totally on computers (BCS era).Current system is infinitely better.

Alabama had one loss, to a top ten team on the road. Ohio State had 2 losses, one by multiple scores at home to a playoff team, one by 31 on the road to a team that finished 7-5 and lost to Purdue. Alabama was consistently thought of as the better team; they got it right.
 
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RealisticCy said:
Which poll? Ranked when: at the time of the game, or at the end of the season? Hard to remove all subjectivity (poll only era), hard to rely totally on computers (BCS era).Current system is infinitely better.

Alabama had one loss, to a top ten team on the road. Ohio State had 2 losses, one by multiple scores at home to a playoff team, one by 31 on the road to a team that finished 7-5 and lost to Purdue. Alabama was consistently thought of as the better team; they got it right.
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Okay, don't use a poll then. Bottom line Alabama would very possibly have 2 losses if they played in the conference championship game same as Ohio State last year. Wisconsin's only loss to 2 loss Ohio State. Alabama's 1 loss to 3 loss Auburn and Wisconsin played an extra game.

They should establish a point system and take the committee completely out of the process with conference championship being a big factor. 2 years in a row a team sneaks in because they didn't have to play in the conference championship. Isn't that the excuse given to the Big 12 for excluding their teams a couple years ago? The current system is the committee simply makes up the rules as they go along.
 
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Newell said:
Okay, don't use a poll then. Bottom line Alabama would very possibly have 2 losses if they played in the conference championship game same as Ohio State last year. Wisconsin's only loss to 2 loss Ohio State. Alabama's 1 loss to 3 loss Auburn and Wisconsin played an extra game.

They should establish a point system and take the committee completely out of the process with conference championship being a big factor. 2 years in a row a team sneaks in because they didn't have to play in the conference championship. Isn't that the excuse given to the Big 12 for excluding their teams a couple years ago? The current system is the committee simply makes up the rules as they go along.
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Actually they've been fairly consistent: they try to put the best 4 teams in the playoff. Conference championships don't matter much. Alabama was rated higher in every ranking, and Ohio State's win over Wisconsin couldn't overcome a 31 point loss to an unranked opponent.

Under the BCS, which was essentially a point system, didn't Nebraska sneak in to the top 2 without playing in the Big 12 championship? Top 4 teams don't need to and shouldn't be required to come from 4 separate conferences.
 
6 teams. Each power 5 champion gets in, and the highest ranked G5 team. No ********, no whining, no comprises.

You have ONE way to get in. Doesnt dilute the regular season or add too many games.

You can have a seeding committee show every week so Herbstreit and Galloway still have something to argue about.
 
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