I sure am glad we pimped Mizzou for the Insight, Navy is a good football team. They had Mizzou frustrated all day today. Combine that with Air Force owning Houston, it was a good day for the Service Academy ground attacks.
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The triple option they ran was fun to watch. Their defense was fairly stout too. Glad we didn't have to play them.
Glad you're happy . . .but I'm getting a little tired of the Navy bandwagon. If they are so hot . .then let them shed all those extra scholarships (that is: meet NCAA imposed limits).
BTW, Missouri played like a bunch of pansies yesterday and embarrassed the Big XII.
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Interesting point, but how do you shed "scholarships" when EVERY student at the Academy is on scholarship, limit "walk-ons"? That would put them at a disadvantage since the standards that cadets have to meet exceed those at most D-1 schools.
I do agree that they should not be allowed the extra 2 coaches, but given the requirements to get in and the commitment that must follow I'll stay on the "bandwagon".
Come on . . you know what I meant.
You limit the number of scholarship players who can play football. They shouldn't have the advantage of 160 scholarship players participating in football, practicing, and standing on the sideline (not to mention the two extra coaches).
BTW, try participating in and meeting all the expectations of the cadre in the Marine Corps ROTC program at ISU. The PT standards, drilling, and training are incredibly demanding for every student "participating." So your appreciation for the Academy is noted but let's not go overboard. *^)
You limit the number of scholarship players who can play football. They shouldn't have the advantage of 160 scholarship players participating in football, practicing, and standing on the sideline (not to mention the two extra coaches).
BTW, try participating in and meeting all the expectations of the cadre in the Marine Corps ROTC program at ISU. The PT standards, drilling, and training are incredibly demanding for every student "participating." So your appreciation for the Academy is noted but let's not go overboard. *^)
I would really like to know how you would do this without taking the competitiveness out of these academy teams. Also going off of what has been said before everbody at the academy is on scholarship from the US Government- how do you limit that? Even "walk ons" are scholarship, so to speak. The academy teams are already at a disadvantage with getting a surplus of quality players, academic standards, military training, ect. So if you want to limit the academies to 85 scholarship players that all other schools have they just as well drop to FCS because that will be their competitive equal.
If you want to put "blame" on something for why people are on the Navy "bandwagon" place it on their style of play with their triple option. As far as I know the only 3 schools that run a true triple option are Navy, Army, and Air Force- Cowincedence? I dont think so.
They are by no means a national power house. When they start competing for and winning BCS games year after year, maybe we consider this. These kids are under so much more stress than any other school, they really deserve whatever advantage they can have. It's not just classes and football. They have all of their military training, drills and workouts to contend with as well. There is a reason that the service academies are always so undersized compared to the rest of the Bowl subdivision teams. They don't have the option to fatten guys up. Practice and weight room are far from the only workouts they do.
Without these advantages, no way they compete at all.
I'll toot Navy's horn...
Madclone.. Lets think for a moment. How many players go to Navy just for football??? I'm guessing only a handfull that maybe had family do it before they got there. These kids are at the service schools to serve our country and not play football. Football is not their first priority....
It takes a good coach to mold a bunch of average football players at best into a great team. So they have more scholarships and more coaches, why does that really matter?? Hell, I'll take a smaller roster of 5* players any day over a roster full of 1* or 2* players at best.
How is that extended roster helping Army???
Madclone.. Lets think for a moment. How many players go to Navy just for football??? I'm guessing only a handfull that maybe had family do it before they got there. These kids are at the service schools to serve our country and not play football. Football is not their first priority....
It takes a good coach to mold a bunch of average football players at best into a great team. So they have more scholarships and more coaches, why does that really matter?? Hell, I'll take a smaller roster of 5* players any day over a roster full of 1* or 2* players at best.
How is that extended roster helping Army???
Georgia Tech and Ohio were two others that came to mind for me, but that's all I could come up with.
ISU may have put on a better showing than Mizzoo against Navy. Wally is a pretty darn good defensive coach, and the Cyclone defense is way tougher against the run than the pass. Also, the ISU running game might have been pretty effective against Navy.
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