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Probably because people want the Trump cocktail. if I get it I’m checking in on day one and I’m like....give me what he had.

No reason that others shouldnt be able to get those treatments. They are pretty inexpensive except remdisivir. Not sure on the antibodies.

I did see a new study last night on a pretty good sample for a new antibody treatment called lensi something. Cut hospital stays in half and immediately improved o2 levels. Treatments and not vaccine are the way to go.
 
No reason that others shouldnt be able to get those treatments. They are pretty inexpensive except remdisivir. Not sure on the antibodies.

I did see a new study last night on a pretty good sample for a new antibody treatment called lensi something. Cut hospital stays in half and immediately improved o2 levels. Treatments and not vaccine are the way to go.

What is defined as inexpensive to you and how are drugs that suppress the immune system and have other possible side effects not worse?
 
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What is defined as inexpensive to you and how are drugs that suppress the immune system and have other possible side effects worse?

Old drugs are cheap, HCQ and many of the steroids are real cheap. Vitamins are even cheaper.

Remdisivir is expensive as you know it costs like $1,000 for a shot.
 
Old drugs are cheap, HCQ and many of the steroids are real cheap. Vitamins are even cheaper.

Remdisivir is expensive as you know it costs like $1,000 for a shot.

What is 'cheap' to you? Are you assuming people have insurance to cover these costs?

For some that actually use HCQ for proven methods of helping other diseases, it went up in price and became less available as people hoarded it.

Vitamins generally don't do much unless you're deficient. To find that out you have to get tests done to see if you're deficient. That's not cheap for many.
 
Cheap is anything that is reasonably priced. Anyone with a job should be able to afford it especially if they have insurance. Now if your one of the Americans that can't scrape more than $400 together, then ya I can't help you there. That's an economic problem not a health issue.

Or look at a ratio. The "cheap" drugs will be orders of magnitude less than what the hospital or ER, etc are going to charge. The expensive drugs will be enough for you to notice on the bill.
 
Cheap is anything that is reasonably priced. Anyone with a job should be able to afford it especially if they have insurance. Now if your one of the Americans that can't scrape more than $400 together, then ya I can't help you there. That's an economic problem not a health issue.

Or look at a ratio. The "cheap" drugs will be orders of magnitude less than what the hospital or ER, etc are going to charge. The expensive drugs will be enough for you to notice on the bill.

So do you think that it should just be common for someone to have a job but have $400 of disposable income at the ready?

I DO agree on that many people I know don't live based on needs and spend way over and aren't prepared for possible problems, but there's all kinds of folks where food itself is not easy.
 
Biontech-Pfizer start process for rolling review of vaccine by European Medicines Agency potentially speeding up approval

 
As of today, 216,784 Americans have died of Coronavirus, in an epidemic that shows no signs of being brought under control. It appears inevitable that we will reach >300k dead, or one in every one thousand Americans having succumbed to this virus.

Currently the United States is the third worst country in the developed world in terms of how many people per-capita have died of Coronavirus: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 
As of today, 216,784 Americans have died of Coronavirus, in an epidemic that shows no signs of being brought under control. It appears inevitable that we will reach >300k dead, or one in every one thousand Americans having succumbed to this virus.

Currently the United States is the third worst country in the developed world in terms of how many people per-capita have died of Coronavirus: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Death rates from 2017-2018 were around 730 per 100,000. That's about 2.2 million lives every year. Perspective is important.
 
UK and their National Health Service (NHS) planning on tens of thousands of vaccines given per day by Christmas

 
Interesting article on NPR website today. There is some thought that nasal version of flu vaccine might offer some protection against Covid-19 since it contains live virus. FluMist
 
Death rates from 2017-2018 were around 730 per 100,000. That's about 2.2 million lives every year. Perspective is important.

What is your point there? 300,000 would be about 13% of 2.2 million. Is your point that 13% of all deaths is substantial? Because I'd agree with that.
 
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I wonder why Beligum is such an outlier in the EU?

Looked it up

They include not only deaths that are confirmed to be virus-related, but even those suspected of being linked, whether the victim was tested or not.
 
If I look at the WHO stats, it looks like China is the country to emulate. Only 3 deaths per a million people compared to 655 for the U.S.
 
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