I will say the fans frying the iowa state kicker need to firstly grow up. Secondly look to this offense. Not all our points should come from the kicker.
Matt Campbell postgame quote
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Could you rephrase or explain that a bit? I'm sure you have good insight. I'm just not following your point.
Maybe our receivers not named X should actually step up and try to make a play then. I don't remember who it was but somebody dropped a 3rd down conversion on that last drive that stalled over by the ISU sideline.
I agree, and in addition, we must remember that some of the people that post on CF don't represent the Iowa State University Cyclone fan base at all (if you know what I mean).
Up until we beat Iowa, you all were talking about how unacceptable it was not to beat them.
Guess you can’t read. I never said every year, but this year Kstate at home is one of our easier games. They have an offense that is very stoppable, which is what we did. Our O just kept crapping the bed.
Dekkers has too much power on the ball when he is accurate. We struggle or don’t want to...it seems..throw downfield in between the hashes. Receivers not named X aren’t getting open.
Running backs are struggling.
Dekkers seems very static in the pocket. Purdy was able to make plays on his feet and use that pump fake to fool people many times.
I was hoping Dekkers would be like a power runner kinda like Klein was, not afraid to run it with his big body.
Running backs are struggling.
Dekkers seems very static in the pocket. Purdy was able to make plays on his feet and use that pump fake to fool people many times.
I was hoping Dekkers would be like a power runner kinda like Klein was, not afraid to run it with his big body.
People are calling for CMC to blame players and coaches. He won’t and shouldn’t. It will lose any chance of improvement if he does. I hope he is addressing those issues with the individual appropriately, but pointing fingers in public is wrong and something he won’t do. Firing an assistant now won’t help most likely.
You go ahead and find where I was a part of that narrative.
That game was a good preview as to what was coming, that's for sure.
Maybe part of our weakness is that teams don't respect our running game, so it makes it more difficult for receivers to get open?
I do think it seems like Dekkers could be an effective runner, so maybe there could be a little midseason overhaul to the offense to make it more like K-State when they had Klein at QB? (i.e. more QB designed runs to keep the defense honest)
The odd thing about what Campbell said is that an 8 yr old DID respond, but the grown men paid a lot of money (sans Heacock) did NOT- they were out coached again! Weird.
I have the feeling most of you have not seen there presser. Go back and watch it. Matt says the coach's can and should do better. He's not going to call individuals out after a loss and no good leader should.
That being said, the comment about the fan base should also of not been said.
That being said, the comment about the fan base should also of not been said.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, because the other side of the coin is he's a moron
West Virginia, Tech, and Oklahoma are very beatable. Texas and TCU are beatable if we play really well. Oklahoma State on the road is probably a loss.
Quite frankly, I don't care if Kansas or K-State are any good. They might be, I don't think they are, but they might be.
Both games are wins if the offense puts up a reasonable amount of points. Iowa State's offense has not been good enough in far too many spots under Manning, and we're seeing what results based thinking leads to. He got away with it because Heacock and NFL skill position players did just enough, and now we don't have a future NFL workhorse back to gloss over a predictable and uncreative scheme.
Ask yourself how many times in Iowa State losses under Campbell it's been because the defense wasn't good enough vs. the offense not being good enough.
I was mad last night and woke up this morning realizing I had reacted to a quote I read online, but had not seen/heard myself for full context. So I watched the video. Here is the relevant clip with a couple of quotes that people seized on last night.
When that "winners do lose, but losers hide" quote hit Twitter last night, a of people (including me) seized on that as some kind of defiance or denial on Campbell's part, and watching the video I no longer think that. He was just repeating what he told the team, in classic Campbell-speak. Now as a fan, I think that stuff starts to ring hollow after awhile when the same issues crop up game after game after game, but I also understand there's probably nothing he's going to say in a postgame presser that's going to satisfy people.
His comment attacking the fan base, however, is just as bad as it read in print. He was actually talking about the positives of last night and then pivots to "our fan base, unfortunately, tried to fry an 18 year old kicker last week" as if the fan base was the central adversity this kid overcame and not his own misfires from the previous game or the crappy situations his coaches put him in in the first place.
It sounds like Gilbert did get a little targeted abuse, which should not happen. But I wish Campbell had been more specific in calling that behavior out instead of tarring the entire fan base with this. I hope he clarifies that in coming days.
When that "winners do lose, but losers hide" quote hit Twitter last night, a of people (including me) seized on that as some kind of defiance or denial on Campbell's part, and watching the video I no longer think that. He was just repeating what he told the team, in classic Campbell-speak. Now as a fan, I think that stuff starts to ring hollow after awhile when the same issues crop up game after game after game, but I also understand there's probably nothing he's going to say in a postgame presser that's going to satisfy people.
His comment attacking the fan base, however, is just as bad as it read in print. He was actually talking about the positives of last night and then pivots to "our fan base, unfortunately, tried to fry an 18 year old kicker last week" as if the fan base was the central adversity this kid overcame and not his own misfires from the previous game or the crappy situations his coaches put him in in the first place.
It sounds like Gilbert did get a little targeted abuse, which should not happen. But I wish Campbell had been more specific in calling that behavior out instead of tarring the entire fan base with this. I hope he clarifies that in coming days.
