Let’s talk point guards

[Cyforce]

I will say unless Williams improves from range he'll be limited to backup PG minutes. I fully expect Lipsey to show solid improvement from range. Hopefully JW can do the same.

To answer the OP we'll have 40 minutes of solid PG play.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

I will say unless Williams improves from range he'll be limited to backup PG minutes. I fully expect Lipsey to show solid improvement from range. Hopefully JW can do the same.

To answer the OP we'll have 40 minutes of solid PG play.

Agree. Lipsey will get majority of PG mins next season. He’s shown enough this year. Unless Williams is somehow a NBA draft pick and we don’t know it.

 

[Cyforce]

It’s honestly a good question. I’m not bashing him. I just think theirs better options. He plays hard. Defends great. But he has mental lapses and has zero offense. When a defensive player doesn’t have to guard him at the perimeter and can shadow someone else thats not a good situation to be in on offense.

If everyone puts you on ignore are you still on the message board?

 

[cal-cyclone]

1. I think Kane was our point Morris’ freshman year. I don’t think he started until later in the year and then started with Kane.

2. Lipsey A/TO ratio would be a lot better if team shot better overall.

3. As an elderly heterosexual woman, I find it odd that I am the first to suggest JLH is all that can save this thread. Maybe there are a plethora of Clooney gifs out there somewhere.

for #1, yes Kane was handling the ball a lot, but so has Holmes this year. Even though Monte didn't start ouf of the gate, he averages the same amount of minutes that Lipsey is now, 28 per game. The stats overall between Morris and Lipsey are close. Morris had a better team surrounding him, so maybe you / and I am convincing myself that they are pretty close. Maybe you put Lipsey on that team Morris was on as a Freshman and he is better than Morris? Not sure.

#2 obviously yes...

One thing that Lipsey does that Morris didn't do is turn the ball over 2, 3 times in a short time span. For a team like this years, where we absolutely are mediocre at scoring the ball, we absolutely need those extra possessions to win. The 3 turnovers by Lipsey in the last 4 min of the game really hurt. (4:18 left, 2:10 left, and 1:40 left) There is no sugar coating that. He will be better next year. I like him as a player. But the turnovers are a area he needs to get better at.

 

[I@ST1]

What's the record for dumb reactions?

Have you seen the thread about ISU being a tournament team?!

 

[cal-cyclone]

I will say unless Williams improves from range he'll be limited to backup PG minutes. I fully expect Lipsey to show solid improvement from range. Hopefully JW can do the same.

To answer the OP we'll have 40 minutes of solid PG play.

I fully expect Lipsey to put in the work and be a 30%+ 3pFG shooter next year.
With better shooters on the team next hear, hopefully, Lipsey will still be open a fair amount...

 

[CySmurf]

I love the good-hearted Fanatics who look past this OP's obvious intent here to bash Lipsey's bad finish by saying "who we got next year?" ...by actually answering the guy's question with actually good answers.
But that OP just wanted to bash Lipsey more than anything else. IMO

 

[ISUCubswin]

Lipsey being the only guy on the team with the stones to knock down 2 free throws under pressure and this guy comes in here with this ****

 

[Final42b]

In my opinion the measure of a great point guard is what his teammates have to say about him. Everybody has done nothing but sing his praises all year. Ask Omaha and Milan if they’re excited to play with him…

 

[exCYtable]

How many dumb threads is CyFan allowed in one day? We may have broken a record.

 

[madguy30]

How many dumb threads is CyFan allowed in one day? We may have broken a record.

Just wait until they don't win the NCAA tourney again.

Someone will start a 'Another wasted season' thread.

 

[CloneLawman]

Go take a cold shower of H2SO4.

FIFY

 

[CyCrazy]

If you think Lipsey wont be the PG next year you are insane/dumb.

 

[MJ271]

for #1, yes Kane was handling the ball a lot, but so has Holmes this year. Even though Monte didn't start ouf of the gate, he averages the same amount of minutes that Lipsey is now, 28 per game. The stats overall between Morris and Lipsey are close. Morris had a better team surrounding him, so maybe you / and I am convincing myself that they are pretty close. Maybe you put Lipsey on that team Morris was on as a Freshman and he is better than Morris? Not sure.

#2 obviously yes...

One thing that Lipsey does that Morris didn't do is turn the ball over 2, 3 times in a short time span. For a team like this years, where we absolutely are mediocre at scoring the ball, we absolutely need those extra possessions to win. The 3 turnovers by Lipsey in the last 4 min of the game really hurt. (4:18 left, 2:10 left, and 1:40 left) There is no sugar coating that. He will be better next year. I like him as a player. But the turnovers are a area he needs to get better at.

On the first note, Kenpom has a 5 game rolling positional depth chart estimate. It estimates that in the last 5 games of the 13/14 season, Kane was the PG 94% of the time, with Morris filling in the final 6%. In the past 5 games, it has Lipsey at PG 80% of the time, Holmes at 20%. Monte also actually had the third highest assist percentage on that team, well behind Kane, and a bit behind Niang.

I don't think that Lipsey would have done as well in Morris's role, because his lack of shooting would have been even more of an issue in a primarily off-ball role. But Morris certainly wouldn't have put up such incredible efficiency numbers if he were in Lipsey's current role as a freshman, either.

 

[ISUTex]

What do we got next year?

Lipsey and Williams. And Hamilton.

 

[istate2022]

Lipsey being the only guy on the team with the stones to knock down 2 free throws under pressure and this guy comes in here with this ****

I don’t get it? But 4 and under he turns it over 3 times. Big stones

 

[bizzle]

Next year when we have some extremely talented but very green freshmen in crunch time they will appreciate having a floor general who got experience the hard way this year.

 

[cysmiley]

Look at Gabe, if Lipsey's shot is on the same trajectory of improvement. he will be an all American as a sophomore! Plus he can penetrate better than Gabe, but that's not a negative towards Gabe, he has been fantastic, just not today!

 

[mjhavlo76]

Can’t wait to see what Williams has.

 

[thisISnextyear]

What do we got next year?

How about you name who you want us to go get and then become a fan of whatever team they go to next year.