I'd never cheer for that
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I'd never cheer for that
We've slid far enough that I'm rooting for straight chalk the rest of the weekend.
If the B1G gets a bunch of bids that's super annoying but things will even out. If they succeed perhaps they're undervalued. Pac 12 did it last year.
If Michigan or Rutgers gets in but Oklahoma doesn’t that will be pretty frustrating. But I’m fully expecting that.
Rutgers should - not Michigan
In a normal year, I could see Michigan getting in just because of its name. I could actually see the committee penalizing them for Howard's actions and not giving them that edge because of it.
Regarding the OU/U-M/Rutgers discussion, here is comparison, based on nitty-gritty sheet. It’s close, but everything is “close” when resumes are … close. Feel free to assess your order of preference.
This is ONLY a comparison among the 3, not relative to the rest of the contenders — all could be in, all could be out, or a combo. (A table format would help visually, but setup time probably isn't worth it).
(Net rank in parentheses, thru 3/11) - Records for Q1-2-3-4, road/neutral, SOS and Strength of Record:
(34) Michigan: 5-10 3-3 6-1 3-0 … 5-7 road, 2-2 neutral … NET SOS 5, non-con SOS 32 … SOR 44.
(39) Oklahoma: 4-12 6-2 2-1 6-0 … 3-8 road, 3-0 neutral … NET SOS 2, non-con SOS 148 … SOR 49.
(78) Rutgers: 6-6 3-4 4-2 5-1 … 4-9 road, 0-1 neutral … NET SOS 33, non-con SOS 328 … SOR 53.
Further details for Q1 & Q2:
U-M: Q1a 3-8 Q1b 1-2 | Q2a 2-2 Q2b 1-1
OU: Q1a 3-8 Q1b 1-4 | Q2a 3-2 Q2b 3-0
RU: Q1a 4-6 Q1b 1-1 | Q2a 3-2 Q2b 0-2
This is ONLY a comparison among the 3, not relative to the rest of the contenders — all could be in, all could be out, or a combo. (A table format would help visually, but setup time probably isn't worth it).
(Net rank in parentheses, thru 3/11) - Records for Q1-2-3-4, road/neutral, SOS and Strength of Record:
(34) Michigan: 5-10 3-3 6-1 3-0 … 5-7 road, 2-2 neutral … NET SOS 5, non-con SOS 32 … SOR 44.
(39) Oklahoma: 4-12 6-2 2-1 6-0 … 3-8 road, 3-0 neutral … NET SOS 2, non-con SOS 148 … SOR 49.
(78) Rutgers: 6-6 3-4 4-2 5-1 … 4-9 road, 0-1 neutral … NET SOS 33, non-con SOS 328 … SOR 53.
Further details for Q1 & Q2:
U-M: Q1a 3-8 Q1b 1-2 | Q2a 2-2 Q2b 1-1
OU: Q1a 3-8 Q1b 1-4 | Q2a 3-2 Q2b 3-0
RU: Q1a 4-6 Q1b 1-1 | Q2a 3-2 Q2b 0-2
Ignore Lunardi. Use Bracket Matrix. That is all.
Michigan is getting in due to brand name and pre season expectations very similar to how sparty got in last year.
Most of us Cyclone fans are lying if we don't admit we will be at least a tiny bit nervous when they reveal those "first four" games tomorrow.
I fully expect ISU to get a 9 seed with Gonzaga looming in the second round. Probably get an 8 seed that plays rugby defense in the first game.
Are we tryin to set a record for saying the same thing in different ways on this Lunardi stuff lol.
I’m not one of those fans. At all
Nobody should be nervous. Unless the committee’s first release, which was heavy on Q1 wins, reversed course we are going to likely be a 9 or 10. Even if for some reason we fell to Dayton, cool. We still made it and have chance to win and advance.
Ditto. I have plenty of "Cyclone Fan Shoe-Drop Paranoia" running through my veins, but worst-case we're 8 slots above Dayton -- and no more than 3 teams have ANY chance of jumping us. (Even that is a stretch).
Texas A&M is about to take someone's spot. Dayton and Virginia Tech are also very much alive. Plus, there are lots of other teams (like Yale or Richmond) who could steal a bid if they win their conference tournament. This could be the one year that ISU has to sweat things out on Sunday.
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No way the committee can leave out a team with
20 wins in the toughest conference
Undefeated in non conference games
3rd most quad 1 wins
20 wins in the toughest conference
Undefeated in non conference games
3rd most quad 1 wins
I would like to see Creighton get blown out by Villanova today. That might put us ahead of them in the pecking order.
