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bradnjen

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Land Shark said:
Where is he going? If we are going to play this game already, lets at least have a destination for him.
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I don't think he's going anywhere, but I have seen his name mentioned on Arkansas message boards. Mizzou fans are upset they didn't get him when he was at Toledo.

He's young and he's building something. We need to take care of this staff. They seem to be terrific recruiters and talent evaluators.
 
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cyIclSoneU

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cyrocksmypants said:
Remember when Rhoads had a big win and we signed him to like a thousand year contract?

Don't get me wrong, I think Campbell is doing great things, and think he'll continue to do so, but let's pump the breaks a little bit right now.
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I get the point but that isn't how this market works. Head coaches get huge deals when they show just a little success. At least one school will roll the dice on them and be willing to eat the remaining contract if they flame out after three bad seasons. If Iowa State sits back and tries to be rational about every coach, they will never be the top bidder for the best ones.

I am not saying Campbell deserves a 10 year contract because he is 4-2, but I am saying that if he keeps winning and becomes a hot commodity, we will likely have two choices: Overpay him (by money, years, or both), or watch him walk. That's how it is today in college football.
 
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Mtowncyclone13

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we are a blown possession and a "quirky" QB away from 6-0. We should be 5-1 and we'd be top 25. you don't think programs will come calling to a coach that took an 11-37 team over the past four years to 5-1 and a ranking?

life is mostly shoulda/woulda/couldas, but let's enjoy what we have, and if he makes a bowl game then we should renegotiate. I am more interested in sustaining success than a once-off victory like CPR had
 
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cc1091 said:
Quite frankly, I have heard a couple of 'Campbell won't be there for long' mentions in both the Hawkeye and National sports press. Hawks of course have a reason to push for 'regime change' at ISU whenever they feel threatened.
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Iowa fans still think Iowa State is a $10 mil per year athletics program. Times have changed for the better for Iowa State and money won;'t be the reason CMC leaves. It's already been stated and there is probably only one job that can pull CMC away. There are a lot of ways that JP can find additional dollars to pay CMC and his staff and fans will be a big part of that.
 
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Seems like people are getting a little too excited. Oklahoma was a great win, no doubt, but CMC was not ISU's first coach to beat a top 3 team from the state of Oklahoma and the last one was fired. Fact is, CPR's win against OSU was awesome but he wasn't fired for losing to the Oklahomas and OSUs of the world, he was fired because he couldn't get it done against average teams.

Generally, we play 3 different types of games: gimmes, maybes, and losses. We know which teams these are because these are the teams we circled or crossed out on our journey to six wins. If I were to break down the year so far:

gimmes - UNI, Akron, KU, Baylor; these are teams we should definitely beat this year... FCS school, MAC school, possibly the worst team in the FBS, and a team decimated by scandal
3-0 so far - good work!

losses - Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, possibly TCU (just have a hard time taking these guys seriously); these are the teams circled as losses
1-0 so far - awesome, fantastic win!

maybes - Iowa, Texas, TTU, WVU, KSU; these are the "peer" teams that were circled as maybe at the beginning of the year. We usually need 2-3 wins in this group to go to a bowl game. I think that the program has been turned around when we win these games consistently, making this group probably the most important.
0-2 so far - troubling

The reality is that top teams stumble sometimes for a variety of reasons. This last weekend, 4 top 10 teams fell to unranked opponents. The win feels good, but it doesn't mean our program is now good and has definitely turned the ship around. IMO, that only happens when we can consistently win most of our maybe games. The next 6 games are going to say a lot more about our team than the last 6. We have reason to be optimistic but it's a little soon to proclaim we've turned the corner.
 
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CyCloned

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I could see a school like Nebraska looking at what Campbell has been able to do at ISU in two years and go after him. I could also see a mid major going after Manning as a head coach. A lot depends on what happens from here to the end of the year, and then next year if everyone stays put. Not going to worry about it until the end of the year at the earliest.
 
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BigDH01 said:
maybes - Iowa, Texas, TTU, WVU, KSU; these are the "peer" teams that were circled as maybe at the beginning of the year. We usually need 2-3 wins in this group to go to a bowl game. I think that the program has been turned around when we win these games consistently, making this group probably the most important.
0-2 so far - troubling
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i agree with you, but when we can say Texas, Iowa, and KSU are our peer teams - that's good. On no other message board is texas a peer with ISU.
 
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This is about right. 2 weeks ago we were talking about how this staff doesn't have a clue what is going on. Now we are afraid we are going to lose them to Ohio State and we better extend and raise them in speculation of success.

For some reason all I can think of is Tombstone's Curly Bill: "I tell you boys even I'm worried what's gonna happen once Ringo runs this outfit. God have mercy!"
 
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clonedude said:
Not to be a downer, but he probably said the bolded part above when he arrived at Toledo too. And he'll probably say it at his next job too. That's what head coaches do these days.

But of course every fan base feels their coach is different, and they actually mean it when they say it.
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In the spirit of making sure we're all dealing with facts, CMC was promoted from OC when Beckman went to Illiniois...he actually arrived at Toledo in 2009.

I have absolutely ZERO inside information, but I don't get the sense that he makes a money grab like many from the MAC have done (Turner Gill?) just because he's the hot name.

Enjoy the ride...it's certainly fun to watch from afar.....
 
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