you mean the team that is looking for any excuse to leave KC proper??
KC vs St. Louis
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you mean the team that is looking for any excuse to leave KC proper??
They aren't looking to go anywhere. They're trying to leverage KC out of everything they can. The new stadium will be where Kaufmann Stadium sits right now.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. It will be in the KC metro, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it end up in Kansas.
If it ends up in Kansas it will be on the Eastside of 435 from the Kansas Speedway. The special legislative session last Saturday in Jeff City got the Chiefs/Royals stadium bill passed. Both teams can and will continue to shop around the metro and squeeze every dime out of everyone but I'm 80% sure both clubs stay in Missouri. The tax revenue from them is too important to lose.
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Kansas STAR bonds are going to be hard to beat for Missouri. The Missouri legislator tried to match, but the two states still don't have the same tools. Most of the regional partners are working to keep them in the area... But I'm not confident with the politics in both KC and Jackson County.
It'll be a bidding war for sure. I did find it interesting how the politicians in KCMO and Missouri in general rallied to get that passed last weekend. I personally want them both to stay in Missouri. The "there's nothing wrong with our current stadiums" crowd is getting old too. Apparently they dont understand that the Royals need more revenue to compete, that KC loses out on Super Bowls and Final fours by not having a climate controlled facility, and that both stadiums are literally crumbling. Both great venues but they've served their purpose. Id be all for the Chiefs getting the same blueprints out and just making another Arrowhead with a roof on it this time. The design and intimacy of that place is unreal. I wish the Big 12 championship game would rotate back there.
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Your comparing winning championships to your first love. St. Louis loved the Rams when they were the greatest show on turf, but that quickly faded when they struggled. KC loves the Royals when they are winning but it's nothing like the passion they have for the Chiefs. Even during the horrible 80s and 90s seasons, the Chiefs were still the most popular team in town, except for a small blip around 1982-85 when the Royals won their first championship. If both teams are good to great, its a Chiefs town, if both are bad, its a Chiefs town, and only when the Royals are good and the Chiefs bad, does it momentarily switch, to the Royals, but it always goes back to the Chiefs when they start winning again.
50% of the metro have some sort of Chiefs display on their car I swear. Its insane. The job I'm working on now has Chiefs flags on all the cranes. From a regional standpoint the Royals fan base has been hurt the most by the Colorado Rockies. Royals Nation used to stretch clear out into Colorado until Denver got a team.
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They really aren’t though. It’s the Royals who want a new stadium. Chiefs would be quite happy to receive some incentives to renovate or build new right where they are.
Yeah, you’ve just opened a can of worms
As an OP resident, I really resent you grouping us in with the Olathe plebs.
It’s not an either/or. It’s both a Chiefs and a Royals town. Who would it have to be one or the other?
Obviously NFL is king in America, everywhere, and we love our Chiefs. The two seasons are entirely different in nature with 17 games, one a week vs 162 games and one every day. I’m glad we get both!
I love Arch Madness, by the way.I, for one, am shocked that a league full of large state universities outdraws a collection of mostly rural teacher's colleges and small private schools
True. I’ve always been surprised that both St Louis and KC consistently rate in the top 10 for per capital murder rate in the USA metro ratings. St Louis has the honor of beating out KC too, they even rate higher than Memphis. It’s odd that these 3 cities have this high rate annually and are located so close together. Omaha and Des Moines are way down the list.
The Rockies franchise started in the 90s if I remember right. I think the decades of absolutely terrible baseball and cheap ownership from the 90s to the 14 and 15 teams hurt the fanbase more than anything.
But this town still becomes fanatical whenever the Royals are in contention, as we saw last season. And that has continued this season, they are a big topic of conversation wherever I go.
Baseball season is just so damn fun when your team is decent.
Its a blast when your team is winning for sure. We love the Royals here its just they aren't the Chiefs. There is a lot to be excited about as a Royals fan though. We have one of the best players in baseball in Witt who is locked up for a while and seems to like it here. Caglianone just called called up the other week and has a few dingers now( a year earlier than they probably would have liked), and pitching is good. Jac Gaglianone has more raw hitting power than anyone who's ever been in KC. He can hit a ball 500ft. The future looks good as long as we can find some offense. Outside of Witt this is the worst hitting team I've ever seen in my life. Im not sure I even understand their plate approach. With Witt, Cags, and a good well rounded pitching staff the Royals have a lot to look forward too. Witt is the best player we've had since George Brett. Cags has a chance to be the best home run hitter in franchise history. Even though I really like the pitching staff we lack an ace. Even maybe a #2 starter. Ive been out to a few games this year and can tell you optimism is high.
The Royals had horrible ownership after Kaufman sold the team, and FA started to really get rolling. During the 70s they could keep the team together, and after that point they have continued to be on the up and down cycle, get the young players in, open up a window to win, and when they get to free agent years, break it all down and start over.
They were hurt by the Rockies coming into the league, Western Nebraska used to be all Royals fans as they were the closest MLB team, but once the Rockies started playing they lost that fan base. The team has made few inroads into Western Iowa, but get into the central or eastern part of the state, they are all Cubs or Cardinal fans.
The organization really screwed up when they were offered the opportunity to move to the national league and passed not wanting to give up their 3 home games each year with the Red Sox and Yankees, which always drew large crowds, but in staying they gave up 9 games each year at home with Cubs and Cardinals that would have dwarfed the numbers they were getting from those other two teams. The Brewers jumped at the chance when the Royals passed, and have never regretted the move.
The 2 world series appearances(1 title) make people forget how bad of owners the Glass family were. They had 3 or so decent seasons in their 20+ years of ownership.
Ownerships like Glass really make it hard to root for your team, the guy had Walmart money, marrying into the family, and could have spent like the Yankees and Dodgers, and not missed the money he would have lost, but instead, only cared about making a profit, not winning.
Lots of Cards fans are feeling that way about the Cardinals ownership, pinching pennies on the minor leagues, to have a strong major league team has caused them to not develop players as well as they have done in the past. I could understand that if the team was not drawing fans, but St. Louis was in the top 3 in attendance for 20 years, and the prices for a Cards game are quite a bit higher than say a Royals or Reds game. St. Louis built Ball Park Village across the street from the stadium and that place is printing money, and they will would not spend it on the team and the organization.
As a fan you always want your owner to blow his money on your team, but in reality it's the other family business that allows you to buy the team in the first place. However any good owner would have dipped a little money out of the Wal-Mart fund to get a better ROI on the baseball investment. They did pledge a little more money to the Royals after the few good seasons but I think it was just money they got for better attendance from winning. I still maintain that the bullpen was what won the WS. Guys like Hosmer,Moose, and Gordon were nice players but not the caliber of Witt so I hope they dont blow this one. I like the fact Sherman is the leader of an ownership group though because I feel like those guys are more committed to winning than strictly making money. Their aggressiveness in terms of getting a new stadium tells me they want to compete. Pro sports are a 50/50 proposition. I think Sherman and his group are working hard its just up to the people of greater KC to get a stadium deal done. As we all know you cant make chicken salad out of chicken ****. They need revenue to compete.
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