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Strongly disagree. The offense last year desperately needed a back that was a real threat. Now do they need to go out and sign the top FA RB or burn that draft capital they just got to go up and get Love? No, but they need to commit at least something more than a 7th round pick on an RB lottery ticket.

They could probably get someone like Tyler Allgeier for a reasonable price and could look at taking Love's teammate, Price in the 2nd round. They can use both the 1st rounders on defense. Sign a couple of veteran receivers, one being Tyquan Thorton and actually throw him the damn ball and I think they'll be in ok shape.
The holes were there last year to be great in the running game but Hunt has no burst and Pacheco has no vision. They started using Brashard at the end of the year in the pass game more, but a dynamic RB would do wonders for this offense. You have to be able to punish teams for going small with 7-8 in pass coverage now in the NFL.
 
Agreed. Talk of using the #9 pick for a RB scares me, and any talk of using draft assets to move up from #9 to get Love is crazy. The DL/EDGE must be the priority.
For any back other than Love its not worth it, but for him, I would do everything possible if I am Veach to make it happen. There will be decent DL/Edge rushers at #29 still on the board. People act like Bain is going to be the next Derrick Thomas here, maybe he would be, but if his short arms are a problem and he is just average, than that would be a wasted pick at #9. They have to get a stud in this draft slot, it does not matter whether its RB, WR or along the D line, but they have to get a difference maker. I think Love will be, not sure about Bain or any of the WRs.
 
Are you referring to the Chiefs? Because my comment was made in regards to the Titans

Also, mentioning KC needing a threat out of the backfield and Tyler Allgeier in the same post seems a tad oxymoronic to me
Oops, sorry. I was thought you were talking about KC.

Allgaier would be more than serviceable for his cost and would pair well with a second-round guy. He had a 1,000 yd season his rookie year and it's not his fault that ATL had Bijan fall into their lap in 2023.
 
There will be decent DL/Edge rushers at #29 still on the board.

There will also be good RB still on the board at #29. I am 1000% confident that the Chiefs won't be dumb enough to package draft capital to move up for Love. They made a good/great trade with Rams to get an extra first round pick and other nice picks. They have many holes to fill.

And I was a proponent of using a third rounder to get Breece. But that is a THIRD, not a top 10 pick.
 
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There will also be good RB still on the board at #29. I am 1000% confident that the Chiefs won't be dumb enough to package draft capital to move up for Love. They made a good/great trade with Rams to get an extra first round pick and other nice picks. They have many holes to fill.

And I was a proponent of using a third rounder to get Breece. But that is a THIRD, not a top 10 pick.
Do the Chiefs want just good, or try and get someone that will be great? One back, Love is rated as a top 5 pick in this draft some have his as the best overall pick in the draft, after him it falls down to 3rd and 4th round selections at the position.
I believe when you get a chance to take a true difference maker at a position of need, you do everything possible to get that done. If it means trading draft picks to move up, then do it. Like I said earlier, if they think Bain is the next Derrick Thomas a huge difference maker than pick him and take Price in the 3rd round. but if Love is sitting that at nine, you have to take him.
 
Do the Chiefs want just good, or try and get someone that will be great? One back, Love is rated as a top 5 pick in this draft some have his as the best overall pick in the draft, after him it falls down to 3rd and 4th round selections at the position.
I believe when you get a chance to take a true difference maker at a position of need, you do everything possible to get that done. If it means trading draft picks to move up, then do it. Like I said earlier, if they think Bain is the next Derrick Thomas a huge difference maker than pick him and take Price in the 3rd round. but if Love is sitting that at nine, you have to take him.
If Love falls to #9, absolutely take him. There are 3 or 4 good edge players that should still be there around #29. I don't think Price will make it to the 3rd round.
 
If Love falls to #9, absolutely take him. There are 3 or 4 good edge players that should still be there around #29. I don't think Price will make it to the 3rd round.
Price is ranked as the 5th RB in the draft according to ESPN, behind Love, Singleton of PSU, Washington out of Arkansas and the back out of Nebraska, but his stock had to drop with a poor showing at the combine. ESPN rates Price as the 107 best prospect in the draft.
The Love grade is 92, while the Singleton grade is 74, a pretty large gap between them, Price's grade is at 70.
 
Agreed. Talk of using the #9 pick for a RB scares me, and any talk of using draft assets to move up from #9 to get Love is crazy. The DL/EDGE must be the priority.
If love is there, 100% take him. hate the idea to trade up for him though, so i am in agreement with you there. There are going to be plenty of options at #9
 
Price is ranked as the 5th RB in the draft according to ESPN, behind Love, Singleton of PSU, Washington out of Arkansas and the back out of Nebraska, but his stock had to drop with a poor showing at the combine. ESPN rates Price as the 107 best prospect in the draft.
The Love grade is 92, while the Singleton grade is 74, a pretty large gap between them, Price's grade is at 70.
Pre-combine, 4 of the 5 ESPN draft experts had Price as their #2 back. Matt Miller still has Price as his second best RB post-combine and had him being drafted at 45 in his latest 2-round mock. Jordan Reid has Price going at #50 in his 2-round mock posted yesterday. So, I'm not seeing where any of their experts have Price that low, pre or post combine.
 
If love is there, 100% take him. hate the idea to trade up for him though, so i am in agreement with you there. There are going to be plenty of options at #9
It depends on what you have to give up to get him. If he is on the board for Washington at #7, I would happily give up our 3rd round pick to move from 9 to 7 and ahead of New Orleans. That would still leave you with the #29 and #40 to pick up D line help and maybe a WR if one is there.
 
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Pre-combine, 4 of the 5 ESPN draft experts had Price as their #2 back. Matt Miller still has Price as his second best RB post-combine and had him being drafted at 45 in his latest 2-round mock. Jordan Reid has Price going at #50 in his 2-round mock posted yesterday. So, I'm not seeing where any of their experts have Price that low, pre or post combine.
Here is the current ESPN rankings. They have Price as their 5th rated RB, The Athletic has Price at #64 overall.

 
It depends on what you have to give up to get him. If he is on the board for Washington at #7, I would happily give up our 3rd pick to move from 9 to 7 and ahead of New Orleans. That would still leave you with the #29 and #40 to pick up D line help and maybe a WR if one is there.
No reason to move up for Love imo
 
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No reason to move up for Love imo
For KC and the amount of need Love would bring, he is the exact reason you move up to try and get ahead of NO. A 3rd round pick may be hit or miss, I would take the chance on losing that pick to ensure you get Love. Now if the Titans want him at #4, then really nothing you can do, but it would not hurt Washington to slide from 7 to 9 and still pick up a extra 3rd round pick by moving down two slots. Giving up a 3rd pick still means you have the #29 and #40 picks to help the defensive line, they will get Lott back next year, which will help the interior and everything I have read they are high on the D end they drafted last year.
 
For KC and the amount of need Love would bring, he is the exact reason you move up to try and get ahead of NO. A 3rd round pick may be hit or miss, I would take the chance on losing that pick to ensure you get Love. Now if the Titans want him at #4, then really nothing you can do, but it would not hurt Washington to slide from 7 to 9 and still pick up a extra 3rd round pick by moving down two slots. Giving up a 3rd pick still means you have the #29 and #40 picks to help the defensive line, they will get Lott back next year, which will help the interior and everything I have read they are high on the D end they drafted last year.
We'll have to agree to disagree. why forfeit a 3rd round pick to move up 2 spots? That just doesnt make sense, especially for a RB who wont be on your team 4 years from now
 
We'll have to agree to disagree. why forfeit a 3rd round pick to move up 2 spots? That just doesnt make sense, especially for a RB who wont be on your team 4 years from now
You move up to ensure that you get him, it's really that simple. After the combine Love is the top two or three players in the draft, it's a position of need for KC. Why would you not give up a 3rd pick to get such a player?
You do not worry about 4 years down the road, if he is as good as everyone says he is, then you pay him and get a decade out of him and Mahomes together. KC is not going to have a chance to get a difference maker on offensive anytime soon most likely, you have to grab a generational player at a position of need if you can. It was a mistake not giving the Jets what they wanted for Hall, either a 2nd or 3rd round pick, now they have franchise tagged him and he is off the market, let's not make the same mistake and miss out on Love.

Hell if KC would have had to give up their #40 pick to the Jets and signed Hall they would be in a better position now that what they currently are, with #9 and #29 to take on defense. They blew that opportunity, lets to do it again.
 
You move up to ensure that you get him, it's really that simple. After the combine Love is the top two or three players in the draft, it's a position of need for KC. Why would you not give up a 3rd pick to get such a player?
You do not worry about 4 years down the road, if he is as good as everyone says he is, then you pay him and get a decade out of him and Mahomes together. KC is not going to have a chance to get a difference maker on offensive anytime soon most likely, you have to grab a generational player at a position of need if you can. It was a mistake not giving the Jets what they wanted for Hall, either a 2nd or 3rd round pick, now they have franchise tagged him and he is off the market, let's not make the same mistake and miss out on Love.

Hell if KC would have had to give up their #40 pick to the Jets and signed Hall they would be in a better position now that what they currently are, with #9 and #29 to take on defense. They blew that opportunity, lets to do it again.
Jeremiyah love is good, but calling him a generational player after a good combine is absolutely wild.

I can name you a multitude of players that had good combines that didnt pan out on a roster
 
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For those not in the camp of finding a way to draft Love I would like to know what your plan is at RB then. The free agent market is not great and because of that would likely have to overpay a bit Kenneth Walker is the top ranked RB and I am guessing he will cost more than the Chiefs are willing to pay given their cap situation and needs at other positions. Drafting a younger and less expensive back even if it cost giving up an additional draft pick is a no-brainer to me. Pretty much every top RB on the market comes with questions and possibly health concerns too. Top options at RB in free agency are Walker, Etienne, Dowdle, Gainwell, and Allgeier. Not exactly a guy other than Walker that stands out as an every down kind of RB.
 
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